Can you spell queerbaiting….
I tried to enjoy handyman McG but the dialogue was bothering me. And there were a few moments with uncle McG that I found creepy.
Anyway, if you liked the episode, good for you.
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I literally just laughed out loud. You said it perfectly. It was too much Uncle McCreepy for me.
Thanks for the laugh. And the plaid.
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OK here it goes. I just glanced quickly at the show. Total creep out. It didn’t bother me that much that Steve was helping Danny with the room .Didn’t catch why he was there in the evening putting the kid to bed. What?! Where was Danny? Danny must have some sort of babysitter to watch the kids. Are we supposed to fall for the idea that they are living together? (queer-baiting at it’s worst) Uncle Steve was way to familiar with taking care of a young kid. He doesn’t have kids of his own. Where was Grace? Surely she is old enough to look after her little brother. Oh, and him crashing into the house .What?! How did he know that nobody was right inside the door? Another example of the show being written as if it was a video game by 12 year old boys for 12 year old boys. Of course, if Steve was driving the truck thru the house shirtless it would have been bearable (sarcasm)
Or how about Rachel? The child does have 2parents. 🙄
It was much more Alex with kids than Steve with kids to me. And pandering to the repeated cries for “uncle Steve” moments that… Have nothing to do with the character on the show IMO.
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ITA Kimphim1 I saw “Alex” playing with Charlie in that scene as he would with his own kids. ♥
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I guess the “Unlcle Creepy” (as you say) didn’t bother me. Maybe (imho) they had him be a little more enthusiastic because Danny wasn’t there. That is what I have an issue with….we see a LOT of the flashbacks of Danny arguing with Rachel about his time with Grace yet he can leave his son with Steve to talk to a man in a coma.
They were moving the guy to a secure ward, right? A place where I am sure Danny has clearance….why not go talk to him at a later date? He almost lost his life and he’s spending time with a man in a coma versus his son….whom he leaves with his “partner”. I am sure Danny is grateful because he now has his “Ohana.” but still as much as they made Charlie a part of his life you’d think he’d be the one at home with HIS son.
Maybe the “Koala Smart Ass” has gotten to me but I think the writers dropped the ball on this one; they could’ve had a great story line showing Danny talking to his son and having Charlie tell him just how awesome his dad is…instead he tells his Uncle Steve.
Loved Steve in the plaid and liked that he busted through the house in his truck. By the way…I know the “overhead” shots of the truck/car, etc. are filmed at another time….but when they showed Steve’s truck on the road it looked more silver but the truck is actually white…was it just me?
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I loved the show Steve was not creepy to me.
He has never been creepy.He has been funny, loving, caring, and serious.
I just love Alex O’Lughlin/Steve Me Garrett.
I agree, queer bating a bit.. Holy Hannah, thought I was the only one uncomfortable! I like rough and chasing McG. Not a fan of this episode. Not a fan of Danny! Never have been! I get excited when he talks about retirement! *ducks* Sorry, but.. McG and Chin, or Grover together, perfect partners! This is just my opinion!
P.S. How bad is the cell phone coverage in Hawaii if they can’t ping Danny’s phone? What a way to stretch a weird storyline!
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I didn’t see anything creepy about it either. The first scene with the argument between Danny and Steve was silly (as usual), but I liked the episode. I am NOT a fan of the baiting the show does at all, but I think it’s totally a normal thing for Danny to ask Steve to help with the room re-do, way more normal than the stupid dr’s office visit! Danny gets on my nerves, but I actually liked the connection of the comatose witness and how Danny got assigned John’s case. Steve driving thru the house was way OTT, but at least it made me laugh! It really sucks for the people who lived in the house, though. I was glad that Tanaka pointed out that the cartel freaking out about the possibility that the guy would wake up and remember was ridiculous. I rarely notice background music in a TV show on the first watch, but I did in this one and it really added to the suspense. Anyway. I liked it because it was suspenseful and it had a good backstory in spite of Steve-lite. It actually explained a lot about Danny’s guilt complex.
Stupid stuff they leave in the episodes, not sure if part of script or if this is just Scott and A have fun with when they get bored>>https://alexoloughlinintensestudy.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/vlcsnap-00370.jpg
Ok, yeah that’s creepy and kinda gross, but I didn’t catch it when I watched last night. Like I said, I’m not a fan of the “queerbating” this show or any other does. I do wonder if we would all see the show in a different light if that term didn’t exist.
Years ago, before I knew that term existed, I noticed it happening in the show. It’s distracting while watching the show, and outside of the story, it’s insulting because they are simply teasing it, and sometimes cross the line into making fun of being gay, which incenses me.
This. Tacky frat boy jokes…at best.
And I’m pretty sure Steve could do way better than Danny. Just kidding.
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I wanted to post my thoughts on this episode in this forum and your comment is the perfect setup to why I am saying what I am saying:
Previously about Hawaii Five-0 I wrote: “Steve Steve Steve “Mr. In For A Penny, In For A Pound” McGarrett. Boy, when that man finally commits, he commits.”
In the Valentine’s Day episode, S7E16, Steve appears to have decided to stop fighting his feelings and show the world (i.e. their purported “girlfriends”) exactly how he feels about Danny. Although as early as S7E08 he dropped a rather broad hint in front of Gracie’s whole terrorist traumatized class by acting like a relieved Daddy unashamedly hugging her and his Partner during the “family” reunions that ensued once the crisis was over. (And where’s THAT fanfic, by the way? For all our Adult interpretation of Steve and Danny’s motivations, I sometimes wonder how it looks to a person who’s grown up in a generation that does not know there was ever stigma attached to being perceived as Gay)
By S7E18 he had actually proposed. (When did he do that??!! you ask. Right before the bomb explosion — sometimes a cigar IS just a cigar and sometimes choosing a restaurant name is the same as getting down on one knee.) By S7E20, Steve was just about busting to tell someone which would explain his being so happily forthcoming in front of Harry Brown (much to Danny’s consternation and unspoken wish to keep their relationship quiet). In S7E21 the happy couple visit the doctor and are told that Steve can resume his normal “physical activities” (which sounds a lot like what Ob-Gyn doctors tell their patients after fertility treatments, right?)
And now we come to “Wehe’Ana” (S7E23). For those who may still think I am blowing smoke up your ass and think the boys are just “very good friends” (which they indeed are), we have Steve and Danny fixing up what essentially is the “nursery” for “their” new baby, Charlie. I call this The Show’s way of trying to depict as subtly as they can that Steve is committed in making his plans for a future with Danny. And Danny, for his part, is just about as on-board with it as he is capable of showing. The fact that OverProtective!Danny is shown letting Steve take care of his son and that Steve was planning to play with him again “in the morning” (i.e. like in the morning after a sleepover, perhaps?) speaks volumes about the depth of Danny and Steve’s relationship. (How’s that go again? “He so loved the [world] that he gave his only begotten son…”)
The entire reason for this scene was to show everyone, who still d(w)on’t believe it, is that at this point in their lives the last thing Steve or Danny is looking for is the right “woman”. I mean c’mon if these two guys really wanted to have a woman, they have the whole population of uncommitted females in Oahu to make a play for. They’re good-looking, famous and rich(ish). But of course in the real world (which this show does NOT seem to be set in), these same women might be a bit put off if they read a newsfeed or watched the evening news that would be full of information about the crazy lives these boys lead and would run the opposite way if they saw them coming. And to be fair the same thing goes for guys too –The same thing I said about their have their choice of women, they also have their choice of men too. I mean think about it: Steve was in the Navy a long time, ya know what I’m saying? I’m sure he had the all the chances in the world to find suitable “bunk mates”. Maybe he did, maybe he didn’t. But you don’t see any of them hanging around do you? And the only one I think we have met so far Danny was immediately jealous of and then Steve end up having to kill him. (These two are about as deadly as the Winchester Boys when it comes to high body counts–Danny killed 3 people and Steve smashed 2 with his truck while destroying some poor schmuck’s family living room at the same time). But again this episode depicts an ongoing trend with this show: that women are not to be trusted and that they are tough as nails. In fact, we learn by the end of this episode that about 60% of the reason that the course of events played out as they did was Rachel’s fault. (which in my opinion puts another nail in the coffin of any possibility of Danny’s going back to her).
Granted this show can be quite ridiculous in regard to action sequences and glaring continuity errors, but on this point, the bromance of Steve and Danny, it has been quite strong and steady. The whole arc of the changing nature of their relationship (starting with S6E11) has been slow and subtle. It had to be so as too many feathers would be ruffled, although this episode here was practically “dropping the anvil”. Steve’s feelings for Danny in this episode are on full display and so intriguingly matter-of-fact: Steve’s “Alpha Male” posturing to an unfazed Danny in the nursery, Steve racing over to the North Shore and heeding Danny’s request that he come to him with all possible speed, and during their phone exchanges Steve exudes the quiet confidence that helped Danny remain calm so he could keep his companions safe throughout the whole ordeal. Danny is also begrudgingly having to admit that Hawaii is now his home. He has a new family and a partner that will go to the limit and beyond just for him. What more could a man want. I mean really – they couldn’t be more married.
I am so sorry but I don’t agree with you. I think too many people are reading too much into it….it’s just a show.
I think that Steve is very much a (ladies) MAN. We have seen him with women: Catherine, Lori, Jenna (CIA Agent), Elly and Lynn; whether it was dating (Catherine/Lynn), flirting (in Lori and Jenna’s case) or just friends (Elly).
I think he has a strong bond with his team; each one of them and for different reasons. 1. He and Chin have shared major loss and he was there (even w/o words) for Chin when Malia died. 2. Grover and he share the past with PTSD and guilt for what happened to people they cared about. 3. With Kono he looks at her as his sister and wants to protect her as he does with Mary. 4. Jerry, and in a way Steve, are unconventional and he “understands” and accepts Jerry because of who he is. 5. Danny, when Steve met Danny they shared something in common “getting John’s killer.” Yes, he became partners with Danny but I think Steve recognized the “single father” aspect of his life because his father too was single trying to raise them on his own. I also feel there is a part of Steve who can’t stand Danny at times at his negativity…does that mean they end their “partnership?” no of course not.
I truly feel that if the writers, producers, etc. were to take the show in that direction they would have done it by now. We are approaching the 8th season and they haven’t done so. I think IN MY OPINION too many are making a mountain out of a mole hill. I don’t think there is any queer bating, homosexual overtones, etc. There have been a couple of lines in certain shows (i.e. they enter a sorority house and the girls think they are a couple…both quickly deny it). When they are flying on the plane for counseling they make sure that the girl knows they are WORK partners.
Don’t get me wrong I don’t judge anyone by their sexual orientation, race, religion, skin color, etc. I just wish people would stop with these “ideas’ and just enjoy the show.
Hi Barb, very well said.
But I just disagree on one point – there definitely are queerbaiting (or as I like to call it now, shipper baiting) going on in the show. Not so much in this episode, but very much so in others.
This person and their thoughts clearly show it how they are baited.
I have seen too many scenes lately, clearly being done to play into the requests and the fantasies of the McDanno shipper not to believe that when they do them, they do it either as a joke about it or as bait.
Just to clarify why I use the term shipper-baiting lately – I read an interesting article about it, that actually showed to the fact that it is not really gay people who are baited to watch for the sake of a gay relationship in the show, but the shippers. Gay people see it for what it is and watch the show for what it is and not sceaming for more, but the poor shippers fall for it time and time again.
And then on top of it the shippers are actually under the impression that they are fighting the cause for gay rights – which they are NOT. And they normally resort to verbal abuse and calling people who do not think as they do, homophobes – which of course is also utter nonsense.
“Interesting” world we live in …..
I feel I am a relatively smart person but I still don’t get the “shipper” context. So basically it’s someone who hopes someone else is (this or that) so that they can justify their own thoughts and actions? I’m so confused…but I do know (whom ever said it) if they were going to go that route they would have done it by now.
There are other “successful” shows out there with “gay” couples and the show works but I think that was the premise from the start. This show is different…it is meant to be an action shows with some personal in the background (procedural) as they say. If they wanted the show to be about two gay cops they would’ve started off that way,
Defender of our Dignity I think you need to get a new handle. You have not only took up space on this blog to spew your fantasies but you have also offended a few of us Christian’s. Word Press is a free platform (you just have to pay for hosting) so I suggest that you get yourself your own site and write whatever you want but just not here.
Yes Barb, in my opinion a show will not start out as one thing just to later turn to something totally different.
Five years ago a did a small study about the shipping community. Maybe it will explain the concept a bit better: https://alexoloughlinintensestudy.wordpress.com/2012/12/02/alex-oloughlin-got-shipped-and-i-landed-on-a-soap-box/
I myself had difficulty at first to grasp the concept of shipping as well. For me a character on a show is who they are, and not who and what I want them to be. If I do not like it – I move on to another show….. as easy as that.
Is this in response to me? If so then I think this is nonsense. I can think of at least a few things two straight men could want from women, but I don’t think the ladies that run this site want me to get vulgar.
We do have our own moments of naugtiness. 😀
Dear Defending Our Dignity
You do know that Hawaii Five-0 is a cop show on CBS?
Although I do not like it when people use this phrase whenever they wish to belittle any relationships on a show, because of the extend of what you wrote, I need to use it now. – Hawaii Five-0 is not a Soap Opera, it is a Prime Yime Television Action show.
It is really great that it gets your imagination going and that you see all kinds of things there that might or might nbot exist, but do realise what you are actually watching and on which channel it is.
The writers and actors throw all sorts of things and jokes and stuff around to either play towards their audience or actually make fun of them without them even realising it. That is why it is being call baiting …… and you are a prime example of somebody falling for the queerbaiting (or what I rather call it these days, Slashshipper- or fanfic- baiting)
You are kind of blurring the lines between friendship and romance here. There are friends in life with which we do lots of stuff and who support us in many ways, and then there are life-partners, who we choose to enjoy our most intemate moments with an let into our sanctuary of self – Steve himself confessed to Harry in 7:02, that there has only been one person he ever allowed IN – and that is Catherine).
Easy in a world where sex is regardedas just another physical action and no longer a connecting experience of two souls blending, to blur those lines of the concept of it.
I think most Christians will find your Bible quote here offensive and totally out of place in this context. The Christian belief is that God gave His Son to die for the sins of the world – Steve looking after Charlie is not that! The world did not look after Jesus – it crusified him!
You are clearly getting stuff muddled up in your stories. By all means,let your imagination go and write it on your own forum, to those who want to see it as you see it. You can enjoy it there.
For me, this is not exactly the right forum for it – if the show actually goes there, then we can talk again and maybe debate it.
And if the show is actually going to where you suggest they are going, then they have also chosen the wrong kind of show, timeslot and Network to do it on for it to actually work, I guess. The show can’t even handle a subject like a liver transplant with dignity and truth and without making fun of it, how will they ever be able to depict a gay relationship with the respect and sensitivity it needs …….?
Hey, Defender of Offending My Religion!
DO NOT compare MY JESUS to DANNY FRIKKIN WILLIAMS! I cannot believe anyone would be so grotesquely obtuse, but you have shown your delusion. It now negates anything else you *think* you have to say. Get over yourself. And see a psychiatrist.
I think you got it slightly wrong if I read what I think I read – Danny is God and Charlie is Jesus. (Slightly worse I guess?)
LOL! Yeah I think so. Tho either combo is grossly sacreligious. If one of us said similar about McG, no doubt we’d be crucified for it, metaphorically speaking of course.
Also, it’s people like you that start rumors that ruin people’s careers. It’s these hints or innuendos that, if not proven by the person themselves, takes forever to get over. One example is recently with Erin Moran, she died of cancer but because of her age and Scott Baio’s (disgusting tweet) speculating her death was due to drugs. Now instead of being remembered for the quirky kid on Happy Days she’s now being listed as a drug addict. It only takes one rumor, speculation or hint of it to catch on like wildfire.
this person replied to me and you on our Facebook page. I think she is trying to get attention there or to get people to read her fanfiction on her own page. I will not let her promote herself and her fantasies via our forum.
I deleted the comment there – the readers there do not know what this is all about. If you are interested to read it – I will forward it to you. But it is really not worth reading. Not sure why she or he tries to debate the matter further.
I am not in a habit of silencing anybody like her and normally give people a chance to give us their thoughts, but this has gone on far enough.
Thanks for your input about it and replies to it.
Your thoughts were all spot on.
Defending Our Dignity
Please don’t reply on another forum to things that happen here. Our Facebook readers and blog readers are 2 different groups. I have deleted it there.
I do not know of what you want to convince us and why? I can make up my own mind of what I see.
You are taking things far to seriously. Relax and get a life outside of your fantasy world of McDanno.
Please find another forum to debate this further. Maybe write Peter Lenkov a letter. I am sure he will be interested in it more than any of us here, because after all, it is his show.
I do not have the time or energy to reply to somebody who do not even have the time to read my replies properly and who insults so many people all at ones by trying to quote (and grossly misquote) the Bible in you arguments.
This conversation is over.
I wanted to tell Steve that it would be easier if he put the border on those boards before he put them on the wall, but then i thought… no, i like looking up at Steve on the ladder, lol. #forreasons #science
Looking at these pics. I just noticed. Is Dannys house made of cinder block? Is that typical in Hawaii? It looks like a basement or a college dorm.
Putting the border on the boards first also crossed my mind. However he had to screw them in place thus the screws would be visible and being a professional wallpaper installer myself, maneuvering the pre-wallpapered boards into place without tearing or marring the wallpaper would be tricky.
Alex/Steve did a nice job hanging the border even without a smoothing tool to press out the air bubbles. 😉 But with them large many hands…who needs a smoothing tool? LOL
Shoddily constructed ep. A throw-away to try to give Danno some props.
BUT, McG as usual, even in reduced appearance time, did all the good stuff. He hung the wall border, then constructed the bed, then hopped in his truck to save Danno…even tho Danno drove to the house yet didn’t have a clue where he did was…and literally ran over the perps to catch them. Then McG returned to Danno’s to apparently babysit Charlie and whisper a kind lie to the kid so he’d think his dad had the patience or smarts to build a bed. All in a day for SuperSEAL.
So what did we learn about Danno, aside from recalling how ill he fit into Hawaii until McG took him under his kind wing? Well, we learned he was so intent to bitch with Rachel that he dropped the call from his CI, who then was attacked by the baddies and thus lives in a coma even today. And now, realizing this, instead of apologizing, Danno tells ComaVic what a great life he now has in Hawaii. I’m sure ComaVic is delighted for Danno. 🙄
Do Show’s writers ever actually watch how the scripts play out? I’d suggest it as a good practice to incorporate next season.
Not creepy at all. Don’t know why Steve and Danny are written to hint at being gay, but I know they aren’t. That’s all that matters for me. Epi was entertaining enough. and Alex got time off and let Scott work that week.
I don’t look at it so much as its implied that they are Gay but rather that it’s more like Steve is actively committing himself to Danny and Danny is slowly coming around to the idea that maybe he will make his partnership with Steve more permanent. Bearing in mind what I opined about concerning Grace’s possible thoughts on the subject (see my reply to DoublL’s comment above) Bachelors Steve and Danny have their choice of eligible women AND men to pursue as a Life Mate (with or without Benefits) throughout the whole of Oahu. Over the years we have even seen them latch on to a fair few. But it is quite obvious by now that all of the many people that may be on their possible Top 10 list come in a distant 2nd to each other as their Top Choice for the job. Why do I know this? Well, to be blunt, if I’m wrong where were they NOT babysitting Charlie and why is Steve NOT planning for his retirement with his own spouse and kids?
And you really have to give Steve credit for even being capable of making a decision like given his psyche damaging personal history. But when you realize that Danny, for all of his endless bitching, non conformism, and Olympian level snarkiness, nobody has been more dedicated and profoundly loyal to Steve. He has done things with and for Steve that even he could never have imagined doing 7 years before. One of the few old military friends of Steve’s that Danny ever met Danny became immediately and correctly suspicious of and then Steve ended up having to kill him. And although Danny had every reason to kick Steve to the curb given who caused Steve’s injuries, Danny still went to retrieve Steve from a hospital in Afghanistan and calmly stared down Army badasses like a pit bull because in his own irascible way he cares deeply for Steve and he wanted his to be the first face that Steve saw when he woke up. It was quite clear to me that by the 7.18 episode Steve (i.e. The Writers) had made his choice.
No What I am saying is that Steve and Danny have proven that they are for each other for better or worse, in sickness and in health, and for much of the past 18 months they have forsaken all others. This is a wonderful thing as most people don’t get that lucky. Whether the sex thing happens between them is anybody’s guess
You have just proven the point of the first sentence in this post exactly. Thank you for that!
These are scenes written to bait the shipping fans and get them excited – until next time when they slap you with a girlfriend or two. Or with Steve actually bonding with somebody else, other that Danny, as well.
You do realise that Danny was actually suspicious and proven right, of Bullfrog because he is supposedly a good cop – not because he was jealous of the realtionship.
>>>>> “nobody has been more dedicated and profoundly loyal to Steve.”
“for much of the past 18 months they have forsaken all others.” <<<<<
LOL – You and I are definitely watching 2 different shows. You are only seeing and remembering the things that you desperately want to see, and you throw the rest away?
And just as a last thought – As you rightly say, these are fictional characters.
Someone is having a bit of fun with us. This is a parody.
No it’s not a parody. This person posted the exact same thing days ago on the previously tv forums. I just read over there and don’t post, but when it was posted here as a reply to my comment I had to respond. The thing that got me is this “What more could a man want.” LOL! Seriously? (Insert eyeroll emoticon here).
This is just someone trying to annoy and should not to be taken seriously. It was incoherent and made no sense. The religious jabs are offensive. It was probably no fun trying to post this on a McDanno site because they would be nodding in agreement after only a superficial reading.
There seems to be some anti-McG undertones so maybe that is why this site was purposely selected.
Didn’t really care much for this episode. Apparently the polls show the same. Didn’t even reach an 8.0 in ratings. I did like the interaction wit Uncle Steve and Charlie.
I didn’t find it creepy at all. Sorry we’ll have to agree to disagree. Love all the goodies as usual 😊
Uncle Steve was very very adorable.
Seeing that side to him only makes him
So much more attractive!!!!!!
Loved it! 😘
what, pray tell, is creepy about anything Steve did? YOU are the creepy one for perverting that scene. that’s disgusting of YOU. you are sick!! and also, why do you still post when all you do is bitch about everything? WE GET IT, YOU ARE NOT A FAN OF DANNY! you know who gives a shit? NOBODY!
*snort* ok, first of all… it’s incredibly distasteful to come into someone’s blog and complain about the content ot try to shame them into silence, im sure you don’t like that when it hastens in your little world. Get a grip and get over yourself. This isn’t a Hawaii five 0 blog, it’s about Alex.
Second, and more disturbing.. NO ONE but YOU, is connecting the uncle McCreepy with … whatever pedophiliac dreams you’ve got going on in your head. That’s all you, sweets.
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Oh, McDannoblog (btw, where is it?), so you are a NOBODY? Who would have thought.
Yes leiCa, weird that somebody would go to all the trouble to specially create an empty blog (for McDanno: http://mcdannoblog.wordpress.com/ ), just in order to come here to make a comment. And then talk (sorry, I mean scream) about stuff that were not even in the post. We rarely even dicuss Danny. We are not even about #H50 – we are about Alex and his career and the fun we have with him.
And if NOBODY gives a shit – why bother to come and tell us that. Actually gave me a good laugh.
Methinks they gave a shit. Possibly a whole diaper full
Yup, show would be better without Danny. But your mind wandered to some weird, sick, place if you are thinking I was referring to some kind of pedophilia with my creepy uncle mention. That was not it at all.
Ps. Please post something on your blog, so that I CAN COME AND YELL AT YOU THERE!
You are about 7 years late at starting a blog for your McDanno ship.
Start writing something on it and actually do something for you ship, for lets say another 5 years (as we have done here for Alex), and then come back and feel free to scream at us that for not being a fan of a FICTIONAL character named DANNY.
Our site is actually about a REAL person, who we adore and respect for his actual talent. And we are here for fun and to enjoy things with other people who enjoy Alex….. We have made over 2000 post about his whole career. And I can promise you by the views we get here – That a lot of fans of Alex, give a shit of what we have done over the 5 years. And some actually enjoy it. Here we post something for all sorts and tastes. Not everybody will like everything that we do …. but that is life – everybody have their own taste.
Enjoy your blogging. Looking forwards to see what you do with your blog. 😀
I got very nervous with the home renos (ha ha, Freudian slip, I originally typed “homo renos”!) at the beginning, because this whole sequence was so stupid. I thought I would be fast-forwarding the show a lot or maybe just turning off the TV. But then in a switch from normal, it was Danno who got called away from the usual “cute” drivel accompanying the main credits.
The rest of the show was much better than I expected, with lots of action, cool stunts and so forth, but was this supposed to be the previously-announced-in-TV-Guide big show where McGarrett and Danno go crazy expressing their feelings for each other? I don’t think so, and there are only two shows left!!
Of course, once I started to think hard about the show, I realized there were a couple of dumb things.
First, when the bad guys are following the ambulance and showering it with automatic rifle fire, why don’t the windows of the ambulance on the back door get shattered or why don’t any of the bullets seemingly not penetrate through the ambulance walls? The bad guys, after all, appear to be using very high-powered weapons.
Then McGarrett drives the truck into the house, somehow magically managing to figure out its exact location just by driving through the area and hearing the sound of guns going off. (Note that once again the ability of Jerry and/or The Supercomputer® to exactly locate someone (in this case, Danno, via his cel phone) has been compromised in order to advance the plot in a certain direction.) How did McGarrett know that the bad guys would be in his direct path and they would be killed? This reminded me of the pilot episode where a truck is driven into a warehouse to run over bad guys but avoids killing the almost-naked Kono who is being humiliated by Sang Min.
The way Danno was reminiscing at the end and also mention of the police chief being retired and having failed at running a restaurant (which the chief said was a really bad idea) made me think that Scott Caan is leaving the show. But maybe Lenkov is just jerking us around as usual.
Another big question is what is this drug kingpin Mendez doing for the last seven years? Is he just living a boring Joe Average life in Hawaii or is he pursuing his occupation of being a drug kingpin in which case you would expect that somebody would have arrested him by now for some bad crime(s)!
The acting by Lori Petty and Michael Paul Chan was very good, and the cool fight between Danno and the “hit woman” was totally unexpected. But if she was a professional, why did she mention Makino’s real name, thus alerting Danno that something fishy was going on? Duh!!
The jazz with “Uncle Steve” at the end didn’t bother me at all.
McG is the Last Jedi. He was able to use The Force to pinpoint Dem perps. 😉
I am not kidding.
There were also questions about how the bad guys could locate the ambulance in the neighborhood after it ran over the parking lot spikes. One of them says “They won’t get far on those tires.” Danno parked the ambulance behind the house, though the baddies still found it. Maybe without tires, the ambulance was dragging something on the ground which would have provided a trail they followed.
I revamped my review which constituted most of the sentiments above.
Turns out that Mendez was not Mr. Upstanding Citizen, though the things he was charged with over a period of about 10 years didn’t have him serving that much time. No doubt he had a good lawyer. (See trivia section of the review.) I didn’t really see the point of Five-Zero’s visit to Mendez’ place, though … they yelled at him about calling off his dogs, but nothing really happened regarding this!
Why can’t people just watch the show instead of analysing every second. This what creeps me out.
Maybe kids these days no longer do it, but I grew up doing book reports at school. And there are bookclubs and art clubs looking to every aspect of a story – even the hidden meaning behind it.
It has been part of society for ages to talk about art and analyze it. If it creeps you out – please don’t force yourself to read it – just watch the show.
We all make our own fun. 🙂
I didn’t find anything creepy about Uncle Steve helping Danny with Charlie’s room! Obviously Steve knows more about what he was doing since Danno is so helpless. I think you’re all overthinking it!! We all get out of the eppies what we want, IMO.
When I saw the scene with Charlie & Steve all I thought was that was probably the way Alex interacts with his two young sons. My only question was “why is he there and not Charlie’s mom or Grace”? Plus Steve crashing into the house was dumb on the writers part. He didn’t know who was where in the house. He could have killed the people he wanted to help. Hope during the hiatus the writers come back to reality.
Exactly! Well said.
I don’t see anything creepy in the episode. I love Steve and Danny setting up Charlie’s bedroom. Steve’s a master handyman, whereas Danny isn’t. I don’t see any queer baiting in this episode, just two guys who are as close as brothers working together on a project.
Steve loves Danny’s family and obviously loves setting up Charlie’s room. Steve’s loyal and supportive to his Ohana. That’s one of the things I love the most about the character, how much he loves his family. And I adore the scenes when Steve’s with Charlie while Danny’s still busy keeping his witness alive. Danny and Rachel are still divorced and maybe Rachel just wasn’t available to take Charlie. So Uncle Steve fills in for her. It all makes perfect sense to me.
I thoroughly enjoyed the episode. I love Danny in a navy tee shirt and jeans. Works for me!! And Steve is gorgeous in plaid, too. Love that shirt.
Btw, Paula…I love your spelling/pronunciation entendre. Plaid/played. Gorgeous really. ❤
Yes, the conversation was weird especially with Danny.
Ok, I’m new to posting comments but I’ve been checking out this site now for weeks and I love it. I, for one, liked this episode, though I did wish we would see more of Alex than what we got. I didn’t see the creepiness though. Charlie’s been around since season 5 so one can assume that Steve and Charlie should have an uncle\nephew bond by now, right? Danno was obviously still at the nursing home for protection reasons as they hadn’t transferred Makeno to the secure ward yet therefore uncle Steve had to babysit until Danny could get home which might be the middle of the night… Maybe Rachel and Grace were having a girls night? Lol. I’ve probably thought too much about this but I’m obsessed with the show and a huge fan of Alex O’loughlin’s. I don’t get the queerbaiting either. It’s very obvious that they are two straight men but some of the stuff that the writers have them do is just a bit…odd. As for the truck through the door….I like it, it just seemed like something the old Steve from season 1 would do and from the timing of things…Steve most likely saw the men enter the house and decided he didn’t have time to get out so he took action and busted through. Lol. I’ve definitely thought way too much about this….
I haven’t seen the episode yet. I will, but I am not that eager to do so. 7.24 looks way more promising for me.
But anyway I appreciate your gifs. Steve looks stunning in plaid. And I like that he played. I guess I will enjoy the heck out of the Steve/Charlie scenes, but we will see.
When Koala Smartass is ready, I will be too. Because me thinks Steve survived? Because: ‘Dead Man Don’t Wear Plaid’.
leiCA I think you should watch every episode and make your own decisions. I don’t agree (sometimes) with what the “owners” post but we are all entitled to our opinion but Paula (I believe) allows us to speak freely.
I know I stated that I thought it was odd that Steve was watching Charlie while Danny was professing how great his life was…but reading about how he might be “protection” made a bit more sense.
I also agree that Steve probably saw the people enter the house and felt he had no choice. I didn’t see a lot of damage to his truck LOL so maybe this house wasn’t cinder block 🙂
BTW, I don’t believe in yelling at them, being rude, etc. so sorry that happened, that was uncalled for.
I didn’t find anything creepy about the Charlie/Steve scene. It was more like Alex being silly. I try to keep in mind that this is just a TV show. I wouldn’t watch it if Alex wasn’t in it. The writers are failing to close the plot holes in many of the story lines. I would have liked it if Makeno woke up at the end.
Hi, I never have posted before on this site but having read some of the comments, it was hard not to respond. i agree that everyone is entitled to voice their opinion as long as it is polite and respectful. We are all guests here and see things from a different perspective. .It is not our blog, we don’t pay for it or maintain it. If you don’t agree with the view of the owners, then say so with with some semblance of civility. I watched the epi and all I learned was that Danny was regarded as an incompetent cop by his superior and most of HPD. We saw how he spent time arguing with Rachel and left his witness hanging on the line. Maybe if he did his job and got to this person as soon as he called there would have been no comatose person to protect. He was removed from this case and rightly so. If the intent was to show us that Danny was an awesome law officer it was a failure. As far as the opening scene with the room renovation, I could not see the necessity for it at all. And why lie to Charlie about who built the bed? Eventually he will learn the truth The kid has enough problems already without having to deal with mistrust of another adult. I wish Danny all the luck with his new restaurant. May he open it soon.
Hi Mamayorkie. Very well said.
Great to have you comment here as well. I like your style, from what I have seen elsewhere. 🙂
Aside from the usual holes in the plot, and the implausibility, and another excuse for a lot of gun play, this episode was OK.
I didn’t see “queer-baiting” from this episode at all.(The episode with topless Steve, and Danny, in the doctors’ office, was queer-baiting.) It’s normal for friends to help out with home-improvement.
I didn’t think Steve’s scenes with Charlie were creepy. Danny was still busy protecting the witness. Steve is an attentive uncle, even if he was channeling Alex. I thought all Steve’s scenes were the best in the show. Who can look at anyone besides him, anyway? lol (Sorry, I don’t know where to find an emoji.) I’ve never gotten the same vibe from Danny.
If HF-0 wasn’t already renewed, I’d be a bit worried by the demo. which was
below 1. Blue Bloods was low too, as were all of Fridays’ shows. I hope
Five-0’s last two episodes do better.
As I have pointed out in my own post – the wording here does not say that the “scene with Charlie was creepy” – it just says a few moments and the gifs below the McCreepy show what she means – the rest of the scene is above the McCreepy wording.
And I agree, the queerbaiting (via things that were said) was much more subtle than in the other episode. But the whole scene, together with the Charlie scene, was definitely there just to give the slash McDanno shippers what they have been begging for, for a long time already.
I wondered if anyone was going to write about the Uncle Steve scene and I see that they did. I didn’t find it creepy, at first just weird. I think it was because there are very few episodes with team interaction and Charlie, unlike Grace in the beginning. It finally occurred to me that Alex has sons and he was just interacting with Charlie the way he probably does with his own boys. I didn’t see any “baiting”, but that is probably because I’ve chosen to ignore it. If they’re not going to go in that direction than why bother, although I think the actor’s would be more than happy to push creative envelope that network television doesn’t afford them. The Danny issues sometimes annoy me, but not to the extent that I totally dislike him. After a post by Kathysr a few episodes ago I realized why. I lived in the NY/NJ area for almost five years and worked for father/daughter accountants that made Danny and Steve’s arguments unnoticeable. The daughter made Danny seem like a quiet little bunny in regards to complaining, arguing, negativity, and neuroses. I also realized that everyone just gathers around Steve and follows the leader. Lou who headed his own SWAT team and questioned Steve now falls in line no questions asked, so you need someone that is on the opposite end or it just gets monotonous and boring. As far as the Danny dislike for anyone that comes to this board to complain, this is the Alex O’Laughlin- An Intense Study site, you’re on the wrong board. As many have posted Scott Caan has his own board for people to sing his praises. I have no problem with the actor or character, but respect the other posters comments. The posters on here are very respectful of everyone’s opinions so your anger on this board is unwanted.
Not such a great episode, but little Charlie is cute & ‘Steve’ building him a car bed was O.K. NOW, why did ‘Steve’ have to change clothes before racing to help Danny? Plaid doesn’t work with Kevlar? Crashing through the front door of an unknown situation was confusing!
I’m so confused. I’m going to have to back and read all these posts. I am a Christian and absolutely no one compares to God and Christ. However, I’m not a judgemental one so to each his own. 1. I truly don’t think PL has a real endgame other than to write storylines that bait everyone on some level for the sake of publicity and ratings. 2. Until the final 2 hours of the show we will never see any of our men with their supposed significant other on a regular basis. He can’t risk tarnishing the ratings and must go out on a high note. 4. I’ve said this on other boards. Although creatively and to be different I don’t think the actors would have a problem with it, because no network show would go for it they ham it up when they have to play the baiting scenes with each other. I’m sure they find it ridiculous.
Ally, I really like your comments and agree with you 100%. Great observations. Thank you for your insights.
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