A Month of Mick (#8) – Moonlight vs “Twilight”

For those of you that might not know, the original pilot of Moonlight was called Twilight. The pilot was shot in January 2007, while the shooting of the actual series started in August 2007.  Of course the name had to be changed when the series was picked up, because the Twilight movie and craze was about to hit the cinemas the next year. I myself feel that the name Moonlight, has got a much nicer ring to it, than Twilight. As with the name most of everything from the pilot, was so different from what we saw in the series of Moonlight in the end.

Differences:

Moonlight Cast vs Twilight cast

Moonlight is set Los Angeles vs Twilight was set in New York

Does the vibe of a city influence a show?

Moonlight Josef is young and only 30 years old vs Twilight Josef who was older

Do you think Mick and Josef being the same age was a good choice?

Moonlight Mick and Coraline meet in 1952 at one of her parties vs Twilight Mick and Coraline who meet in 1947 in a Jazz club.

Why did they change the year in which Mick and Coraline meet?

Moonlight human Mick played guitar vs Twilight human Mick that used to play the trumpet.

In Moonlight Josef does not believe Mick’s suspicions that Morgan is Coraline vs in Twilight it seems that Josef knew all along that Coraline is still alive.

How good a friend was Josef, if he kept that from Mick?

Moonlight Mick just sniffing out other vampires vs Twilight where Mick have the ability to see lack of heat signals around vampires

Was the Moonlight Mick’s special abilities more believable?

In Moonlight the vampires’ eyes change color and their fangs are visible vs Twilight where the vampires change shape and look more like beasts

Maybe this helped that people who are not big vampire genre fans, also liked the series in the end?

In Moonlight Beth only realises in Epi 8 that Mick rescued her vs in Twilight where Beth recognising Mick as her rescuer in the pilot

How do you feel about what they had and what we got in the end?

The most unnerved I’ve been in this whole process was when I was at Carnegie Hall by myself on stage. There was the cast of ‘Cane,’ like 10 people on stage, and the cast of ‘The Big Bang Theory,’ and I kind of waddled out there by myself and I was like, ‘Please watch “Moonlight.” Bye.’And I felt like a [jerk] ’cause I didn’t know what was coming. I had lost my entire cast.

— Alex O’Loughlin, LA Times, 31 October 2007

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41 responses to “A Month of Mick (#8) – Moonlight vs “Twilight”

  1. I didn’t know this had happened so I find this piece really interesting.

    It’s hard to know what difference it would have made having an older looking Josef, although I like having the two of them the same age. They have great chemistry.

    Mick playing guitar, the settings of the Party, LA or the cast changes probably wouldn’t have made much difference to me enjoying the show overall. Without watching Twilight I really couldn’t say for certain.

    I much prefer the look of the Moonlight vampire. It seems to fit in more with vampire lore I reckon, not having a total change to the beast look. Plus on a shallow level, Mick looks smoking hot when he changes. 🙂

    I also prefer the Moonlight logo.

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  2. Mz Bunty

    I think the ‘Twilight’ would not have been as popular the characters just didn’t gell well together the onlygood thing in it was MICK!! Well Hey that’s just my opinion !!

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  3. The original pilot is a lot more like Trevor’s novel ‘Angel of Vengeance’. Although I can appreciate elements of the original pilot I am glad they changed it, and we got the Moonlight we all still enjoy today. I like being able to see Trevor’s creations as separate entities, like I know Angel of Vengeance inspired Moonlight, but it still isn’t Moonlight and it’s interesting to see the development and differences between the two. I suppose I’m one of these people that a direct, or close enough to book to TV/Movie translation never really works for. I could see myself having gotten into Moonlight if they’d kept it like the original pilot, and then read Trevor’s book and been sitting there going ‘No, they did this all wrong, the book is better, damn you now I can’t enjoy the show’. I like Moonlight for what it was, I like Angel of Vengeance for what it is.

    I believe the older Josef character in the original pilot may have been taken from the older, aging Vampire character in Angel of Vengeance, just with a name change. Obviously I prefer the Mick and Josef we got, but I still would have liked to have seen that older guy in a different role, maybe even as Josef’s sire. I mean Mick has his ‘mentor’, it would have been interesting to see Josef’s interaction with someone who was his.

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    • Ontlls

      so i might have to go find a book to read eh!

      The older TL Mick as ML Joseph sire, now that would have been interesting! That would almost make Mick and Joseph brothers, since they almost act like it! That would be fun to watch.

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      • Here we go 🙂

        http://www.amazon.com/Angel-Vengeance-Novel-Inspired-Moonlight/dp/184856855X

        The sequel ‘Guardian Angel’ is due out in 2014. Trevor’s working on it now. Angel of Vengeance is a lot darker than the Moonlight we eventually got. I’ll post a review I did of it just after I first read it (personally I loved the book, and I loved the darker aspects of Mick Angel, but I loved Mick St John for the character he was as well).

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        s a Moonlight fan, to say I was looking forward to reading this would be an understatement. My copy arrived two hours ago, and I’ve just finished it; I didn’t so much read, as devour the pages.

        This isn’t a novelisation of Moonlight, nor is it a Prequel, having said that, you can still see the basis for Mick St John in the character of Mick Angel. This Mick is a lot grittier, darker even, than the character of Mick on the show. Nonetheless it’s easy to see Mick St John as Mick Angel of the past – before his redemption.

        The book itself is laugh out loud funny in parts; Mick Angel has a delightfully jaded wit about him. The writing itself was a little jarring at first – short sentences, straight to the point, a little choppy almost – however that was probably more due to the fact that I tend to read stuff that’s a little more flowing in style. Once I’d become accustomed to it, I found that it actually suited the character of Mick Angel (the book is written in first person, from Mick’s p.o.v). There’s a wonderful noir-ish feel to it all, like a dime store detective novel from the 50’s that’s been transported into the modern age. The words have a confident swagger about them, full of bravado, and cutting wit – a bit like Mick Angel himself.

        There’s nothing of Mick and Beth in this novel, except for a brief appearance of Beth (‘Lizabeth) as a child. Mick Angel rescues her under slightly different circumstances, more akin to what Moonlight fans saw in the original pilot (before they reworked and recast the show). Now I know some of you are going to be cheering for this fact, so let me just break it to you– there’s no Josef either. Coraline does make an appearance, and like the character of Mick Angel, she’s also a lot darker than we saw on Moonlight itself. Angel of Vengeance’s Coraline practically sashays off the page dripping with manipulation and psychopathy. Unlike the Coraline we were presented with on the show, it’s difficult, if not damn near impossible to find anything remotely redeemable about the character; she’s rotten to her blue-black pompadour haired, and red lipped core.

        In the book, Mick Angel is also a former junkie, who continues to mainline his ‘fix’ of blood for the comforting ritual of it all. The descriptions of injecting, and the effects of Heroin addiction, aren’t presented in any sort of detailed manner; however, if anyone is sensitive to these sorts of issues just be forewarned there were a couple of passages earlier on that set my veins on edge slightly.

        Overall I loved this book. At just under 290 pages it moves at a cracking pace, and doesn’t get too bogged down in a lot of unnecessary exposition; at times it almost felt like I was reading a movie script in novel form. It’s not Moonlight, but the elements are still there, and, like I said, you can still see elements of Mick St John in Mick Angel, and vice-versa.

        The Book Depository site currently has copies for just under $10 AUD, with free world wide shipping. I highly recommend you pick one up for yourself, and give it a read – even if it is just to say thank you to the guy who gave us Moonlight.

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  4. miracle

    What a wonderful post! Thank you!

    I think it wasn’t a bad move not to use the original pilot. In my opinion the whole cast had no chemistry at all. To show the vampires as monsters didn’t fit, too. They wanted to show them living among us, in their own world, but among the “normal” people. To show this the vampires couldn’t look like monsters, at least not so much they did in the original pilot. To cast a younger actor as Josef was a good choice, too. It’s more believable, I think, and more zappy. Mick needs a friend, not someone who looks – and probably acts – like his father. And in fact Josef IS older than Mick, one of the oldest vampires in LA, and shows sometimes that he IS older and acts like Mick’s father, but that is what makes their relationship so special and sometimes funny.

    Um, does this make any sense? 🙂

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    • AlexNymph

      Yes, Miracle, it makes perfect sense. I agree–the original cast had no chemistry. The Moonlight we got had plenty of chemistry and enough darkness a la film noire–the look, the voiceovers, the sets, the jokes,etc. I didn’t like the old Josef at all and didn’t understand why Mick was friends with him. Actually, not friends but more like mentor and student. I’m wondering if they dropped the monster looks and the heat sensing due to budget constraints, and I’m glad–they were unnecessary for me.

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  5. Some of Trevor’s responses to answers from fans about Twilight (original pilot) vs Moonlight. It’s pretty long but if anyone is interested I can post the full Q&A on here. 🙂

    Q: Would you have preferred the series to be darker, more like the book? (if the network would have allowed) Or did you view the series as a completely separate entity?

    Trevor: I mostly saw them as two separate things. In the beginning I was wanting a darker more gothic world more like that which Ron & I created in the pilot. But I think that the lighter, more fun world we ended up with ultimately worked pretty well for a network series. That said, it would be interesting to know what the HBO version would have looked like…

    Q: While I can’t imagine Moonlight without its wonderful cast, all but Alex were not the first actors cast in the roles. What prompted the change in the cast between the original pilot & what turned out to be “No Such Thing As Vampires”? And was the drastic change in the character of Josef because of the casting of Jason Dohring?

    Trevor: The casting change came out of the testing. Alex was really the main who had high marks from the audience. As a result, TBTB decided we had something here, but that we needed to make some casting changes. There were a lot more made that any of us expected, however. The other decision that happened about that time was that we decided to make the character of Josef younger (or rather to have him APPEAR younger) to give the feel of the show a younger/hipper feel. Jason was cast as a result during the search for an actor who could appear young, but give the feel of being much older & more seasoned… We were very luck to find him. He was great…

    Q: Were you happy with the way Mick Angel was re-written to become Mick St John – a less edgy, maybe more do-gooder vampire, one without a history of drugs & maybe tortured by different demons? I wonder as a writer how you felt about the character re-writes, did you like or dislike Mick St. John? Compared to Mick Angel, St. John was, maybe, a little “white bread?” Or did you find the show, & Mick St. John, incredibly charming, as we fans did, & was it okay because Mick/Beth/Josef/Coraline all turned out to be characters we fans loved so much?

    Trevor: Well, actually I was one of the two people who actively had a part in creating Mick St. John. My co-creator, Ron Koslow (Beauty and the Beast) & I basically used my novel as a jumping-off point for the more romantic, elegant series that CBS had in mind for their network. I was okay with that, because I knew that I had my underlying novel to point to for my original vision no matter how we decided to change the material. That said the response & love of the characters we created for the series from the fans, definitely made it all worthwhile. It’s an amazing thing for a writer to get to see the impact his characters have on an audience who come to love them as much you do.

    Q: With the benefit of hindsight, is there anything you would change about Moonlight?

    Trevor: If I had my way, I would keep the show on a track more like Ron & I initially envisioned, where more of the episodes would reveal a piece of one of the characters long backstories, & then bring that into the present like we did with Sleeping Beauty. I like that formula for the show. I love the idea of exploring the long histories of the characters & peeling back the layers of their personalities & lives more & more…

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  6. visage13

    I went on Youtube and watched the original pilot. I like the version we got much better then the original. New York as the setting is very scary, dark and gothic. L.A. is more open and less scary to me anyway. I believe there are NYC people and L.A. people, I have always been an L.A. person, more laid back and beachy as opposed to always on the go and just darker in general. I have been to both and my impression of NYC is not as scary now that I have been there but I still prefer L.A. Please do not take offense if you are from NYC. Just my opinion.

    That transitions into the monster look, again I prefer the sexy vampire to the more scary monster vampire because I am not a scary movie or TV show person.

    I prefer the younger Joseph. I agree it was better to have a friend more his age yet older and a bit wiser and I thought their friendship was well written. I think meeting in a Jazz club would have been better because Jazz is very sexy, but not a huge deal. I like the fact that “new” Beth didn’t realize right away, however I believe she did know but wasn’t ready to face it. It is like she sensed it but put it out of her mind.

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  7. ah, such a good post… I watched Twilight only twice now (and I’m re-watching Moonlight 4th time) and I didn’t notice that little things, like year when Mick met Coraline, or Beth knowing that Mick saved her until now… hm, I think it’s great thing that Josef and Mick are same age, because it makes more sense to me… I mean, a young man and his best friend twice as old? Not very likely, IMO…
    First time I watched Twilight was AFTER Moonlight, because I didn’t know about it until I read some blog where that was mentioned… If I watched it first, I probably would never see Moonlight… because a) I (still) HATE vampires, and it’s very unlikely that I would even watch Twilight in the first place, and b)I didn’t like the cast of Twilight at all (only Alex, of course) – even though Josef was played by Rade Serbedzija who is from my country and one of our best actors so far, but…
    Whole Moonlight has some deep story that pulled me in (not just Alex, LOL)… somehow I wanted to see it after everything I read about it, and the best thing from that is that I met lots of people I now call my friends (online, of course)… the most precious to me is in comments right above, my dear Emerald… through her I became fan of Mick and Alex more than I would probably be without her… and then I found this blog, and H50BAMF etc…
    so, I can’t wait to see next post and the rest of our Mick month… that should be made to book after it’s over. Think about it!

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  8. Oh what the hey, seeing as I’ve already posted a snippet of it above, I’ll post the rest of the Q&A session we did with Trevor last year. I’m copying this straight from my Tumblr, and fair warning…LONG POST WILL BE LOOOONNNG!

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    • Q&A With Moonlight’s Creator ~ Trevor Munson (reprinted here with permission from Trevor & the Moonlight VampSister’s Messageboard)

      This was a Q&A I did with Trevor last year. Originally it was done as an exclusive for the Moonlight VampSisters Messageboard, but since a reasonable amount of time has passed I’ve decided to share it with a wider audience.

      The Q&A is divided into four sections, questions about Moonlight, questions about Trevor’s novel, Angel of Vengeance (the inspiration for Moonlight), questions regarding fan fiction, and general questions.

      Moonlight
      Q: Since the cancellation of the show & considering how many of us would have LOVED to have seen a second, third, & forth season – have you given consideration to writing a series of Moonlight books that take up where the show left off? Or commissioning an author to do so?
      Trevor: Ron & I have talked about the possibility, but we don’t have control over the material at this point. A series of novelizations would have to be okay’d by Warner Bros. & they would decide who got to write them…(NB: Trevor has recently received news from his Lawyer that he has the go ahead to write a sequel to Angel of Vengeance, which will more than likely feature some of the Moonlight characters not already included in the original novel)
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      Q: Why did Coraline choose Beth to kidnap, did she intend to turn her? They have the same extremely rare bloodtype. Could Beth somehow be related to Coraline through a common human relative? Did Coraline know about Beth’s rare blood type?
      Trevor: We had long talked about something along those lines. That there was a greater reveal to be uncovered as to why Coraline chose Beth. There were several different possibilities discussed, but I’m not sure if any were ever settled on. I suspect, that Coraline being the kind of vamp she is, we would have learned that there was a link between the two down the line…
      ***
      Q: If Mick could get more of the Cure, would he be able to impregnate Beth?
      Trevor: Although I’m not sure what we decided on in the end, my general theory for vampires was going to be that the male was able to reproduce, but the female vampire was barren. Hence Coraline’s need to procure a child in Beth… I don’t recall if that’s what we ended up going with for the show, but yes, if Mick were on ‘The Cure’ I think he’s most definitely be able to reproduce…
      ***
      Q: Would you have preferred the series to be darker, more like the book? (if the network would have allowed) Or did you view the series as a completely separate entity?
      Trevor: I mostly saw them as two separate things. In the beginning I was wanting a darker more gothic world more like that which Ron & I created in the pilot. But I think that the lighter, more fun world we ended up with ultimately worked pretty well for a network series. That said, it would be interesting to know what the HBO version would have looked like…
      ***
      Q: While I can’t imagine Moonlight without its wonderful cast, all but Alex were not the first actors cast in the roles. What prompted the change in the cast between the original pilot & what turned out to be “No Such Thing As Vampires”? And was the drastic change in the character of Josef because of the casting of Jason Dohring?
      Trevor: The casting change came out of the testing. Alex was really the main who had high marks from the audience. As a result, TBTB decided we had something here, but that we needed to make some casting changes. There were a lot more made that any of us expected, however. The other decision that happened about that time was that we decided to make the character of Josef younger (or rather to have him APPEAR younger) to give the feel of the show a younger/hipper feel. Jason was cast as a result during the search for an actor who could appear young, but give the feel of being much older & more seasoned… We were very luck to find him. He was great…
      ***
      Q: Do you have any favorite memories from Moonlight?
      Trevor: My favorite memories of the show were probably creating the pilot with Ron Koslow. We had a great time. The filming of the pilot was a lot of fun too. The cast & crew was great & it was like a big family coming together to make something we loved.
      ***
      Q: Were you happy with the way Mick Angel was re-written to become Mick St John – a less edgy, maybe more do-gooder vampire, one without a history of drugs & maybe tortured by different demons? I wonder as a writer how you felt about the character re-writes, did you like or dislike Mick St. John? Compared to Mick Angel, St. John was, maybe, a little “white bread?” Or did you find the show, & Mick St. John, incredibly charming, as we fans did, & was it okay because Mick/Beth/Josef/Coraline all turned out to be characters we fans loved so much?
      Trevor: Well, actually I was one of the two people who actively had a part in creating Mick St. John. My co-creator, Ron Koslow (Beauty and the Beast) & I basically used my novel as a jumping-off point for the more romantic, elegant series that CBS had in mind for their network. I was okay with that, because I knew that I had my underlying novel to point to for my original vision no matter how we decided to change the material. That said the response & love of the characters we created for the series from the fans, definitely made it all worthwhile. It’s an amazing thing for a writer to get to see the impact his characters have on an audience who come to love them as much you do.
      ***
      Q: Mick says he doesn’t eat, but in Dr. Feelgood the newly turned vamp says “Your food has no taste”. So do they not eat because it has no taste, or will their bodies reject the food? Perhaps an indelicate but still unanswered question is: Do vamps use the bathroom (other than to bathe)? If the diet is solely blood, is there no waste? And what of wine and liquor, if they can ingest these substances, wouldn’t they be processed differently than blood?
      Trevor: Good question! The mythology is a little different between the show & the book, but in general in my mind, vampires can ingest food early on, but it gets harder & harder for their bodies to process, until eventually they just reject food. As for liquids, I think that they continue to need to use the bathroom in that capacity, as testified by the fact that Mick had a strange little public bathroom-style urinal in his freezer room.
      ***
      Q: Any clue as to how the character of Josef would have developed? Were there any ideas developed as to Josef’s back story?
      Trevor: Thanks for the question. Although Josef makes mention of being chased by a torch-bearing mob in one episode, Ron & I didn’t really have a set back-story in mind for him. We tossed a lot of different ideas around, & we did hope to explore and uncover that in long course of the series. In the beginning, we hoped to have more episodes like Sleeping Beauty, in which we explored a character’s past & brought some element of that into the present. Unfortunately we didn’t get to do that as much as we would have liked. However, I’m certain that if the series had continued we would have addressed that. On another note, I have toyed with the idea of writing some sort of prequel back story for Josef at some point down the line. Although I don’t have the rights to necessarily do it, I think I might be able to get around that by virtue of the fact that whoever Josef was in the past, he would have had another name.
      ***
      Q: Were you surprised at just how popular the character of Josef became?
      Trevor: That’s interesting. I know that Josef is popular, but I doubt I’m fully aware of just how popular if what you told me is any indication. Josef was an intriguing character to begin with. Obviously, we initially cast an older actor in the role because we wanted him to feel like an archetypal mentor. Later, when the role was recast younger, we were equally enthusiastic about the idea. At the time, although excited about the possibility, our main concern was would it even be possible to find a young actor capable of properly conveying the worldliness & wry wisdom of a being who had lived for 400 plus years. Luckily, we found Jason Dohring, who exceeded all of our expectations & knocked it out of the park. Because Jason was so good & effective, however, I don’t find it too surprising that the character struck such a chord with viewers…
      ***
      Q: Can the Cure ever be made permanent? And Josef seems like he knows a lot more about the Cure, & Lance, than he’s letting on, what was the story there?
      Trevor: As for the specifics as to the Cure & what Josef knows of it, I don’t think anyone really knows. The fun in creating a show is that the writers come up with all kinds of potentially cool, fun, interesting ways to go, & then you sort of make it up as you go along according to the necessities & dictates of the episode at hand. Nothing is set in stone until it is. I’m sure the staff would have had a lot of fun exploring the specifics of the Cure over time, if they’d been able, but I don’t think anything was decided for sure at the time of the show’s end…
      ***
      Q: Were there any plans to explain exactly how Coraline (& Josef for that matter) managed to survive a fire that should have killed most Vamps? With the scene of Lance’s hand regenerating in episode 12, most fans have assumed the ability to survive a fire is somehow tied in with either the Duvall’s particular bloodline, or their use of the mortal cure. Is this the direction you would have headed in, or did you have something different in mind?
      Trevor: Personally, I like the mythology that suggests a vampire is able to survive a fire if their ashes aren’t scattered. That’s probably what we intended in the pilot episode, the bigger issue, for me was how we saw her in the window after she was staked which we had already set up as a rule. This was actually a problem that developed in the shooting which we became aware of too late. As for Josef, Ron & I wrote a short scene revealing that Josef had a secret fire bunker in his office, but ultimately had to cut it, leaving that an open question as a result. As for what the plan was with Lance in ep 12, I really can’t speak to that as I wasn’t around for the discussion. Not sure what the plan or logic was at that point…
      ***
      Q: In regards to Sarah, in the last episode a memorial service is held for her, with the assumption that she has passed on. When you wrote Sleeping Beauty, did you have an idea of what the character’s ultimate fate would be, & would you have wanted it to be different to what we actually got. Would Sarah have woken up at some point, & if that was to happen, was there any discussions about how it would be achieved (eg Beth’s blood, something to do with the Mortal Cure, etc)?
      Trevor: Ron & I discussed potentially bringing Sarah back at some point. I think she could have made a really cool addition at least for a period of time. It would have been nice to explore Josef’s character a little more deeply through his association to her. We also talked about bringing her back, but potentially having her be ‘off’ somehow, as a result of her long sleep…
      ***
      Q: In the Moonlight world, we know a stake won’t kill a vampire. What about a broken neck? Will that kill or only temporarily incapacitate a vamp?
      Trevor: I think a broken neck would only slow a vampire down temporarily. However, a severed head is another matter.
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      Q: A lot of fans were disappointed with the fact that there were no extras on Moonlight’s DVD release. Do you think there’s any chance of us getting something like that at some stage in the future? What about a Blu-ray release as well, what would need to happen in order to make that a possibility?
      Trevor: Well they have the footage if they want to use it. There were lots of interviews & behind-the-scenes footage taken throughout. It seems likely that at some point re-releasing the DVD with some of that stuff may begin to seem like a good idea to them. Perhaps writing in & expressing a desire to TPTB for something like that would help create momentum to make it happen.
      ***
      Q: Everyone has their own ideas of what happened ‘after the door closed’ (Sonata’s final scene), how would you have written that ending – would you have left it ambiguous, like they did, or would you have given the fans a bit more closure. In terms of Mick’s character, from your point of view, do you think it’s conceivable that he ‘sealed the deal’ with Beth at that stage.
      Trevor: I think they handled it pretty well in that respect. Particularly because no one thought they were actually writing the final episode at that point. Had they known, I think they would have been a better finale to be had, but as a season one closer, that seems pretty good.
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      Q: I know that vampires are dead & blood & cold staves off decay, & you can tell the age of the vamp by the smell (I’m assuming humans can’t smell it) but to what level of decay can they go? Is smell the only indicator of their decay?
      Trevor: Yes, that is one thing that many people don’t really seem to pick up on. I never intended for the human population to be able to detect the scent of decomposition in vampires. In my mind it was just something they were aware of between themselves, however, perhaps in very late states of decay, as with a character like Brasher (Angel of Vengeance novel), a human might be able to pick up on it.
      ***
      Q: If you could write an ending for Moonlight, maybe tie up some loose ends, what would be the outcome? Happy endings all round? Or would you leave some ends loose, leaving people to wonder?
      Trevor: Personally, I like to keep things a little messy. I would try to tie up the big points, but still maybe leave room for speculation. I like the idea of leaving breathing room for the audience to have their own opinions on things…
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      Q: With the benefit of hindsight, is there anything you would change about Moonlight?
      Trevor: If I had my way, I would keep the show on a track more like Ron & I initially envisioned, where more of the episodes would reveal a piece of one of the characters long backstories, & then bring that into the present like we did with Sleeping Beauty. I like that formula for the show. I love the idea of exploring the long histories of the characters & peeling back the layers of their personalities & lives more & more…
      ***
      Q: There has been a lot of speculation about it in the community. Where do you personally see Josef as originally hailing from?
      Trevor: To be honest, I haven’t made that decision. I have some thoughts on it, but haven’t really come to any definite conclusions. It would be fun to explore it at some point down the line, however…
      ***
      Q: What is the skin temperature of the Moonlight vampires? Unlike other vampire lore, which mention the “cold/cool skin,” Moonlight vampire skin temperature seems to not be an issue for humans, so I’m wondering—after they emerge from the freezer, maybe take a warm shower, have a glass of blood (which “warms & thrills,” as I recall) do they kind of get to close to 98.6F? If they only warm up to room temperature, they’d still feel quite cold to the touch & I don’t recall Beth EVER saying—“Mick! Your skin is so cold! What’s the matter?” (She’d have made an issue of it, I’m sure.) So the QUESTION: Do they feel human to humans as far as skin temperature? And how do they get there from freezing?
      Trevor: It’s a good question. In the book of course, Mick’s cool texture is commented on by Reesa, but the issue was never really addressed in the show, which would seem to indicate that vamps have a more normal temperature. I don’t think it was an intentional decision, however, early-on we decided that although vampires don’t need to have heartbeats, or respirate they do so in order to better blend in amongst the humans. So, logistically, perhaps this is just one more example of that…
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      Q: Who submitted The List & who is on it?
      Trevor: I don’t know much about the List. The writing for the last 4 eps got done without Ron and I after the strike, so sadly, neither of us were privy to the backstory created for them…
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      Q: How did the older vamps manage without freezers? – a cold tomb, cave or catacomb is all well & good but they won’t reach the temps that freezers can, & vamps in hotter climes would struggle.
      Trevor: Yes, I suppose older vampires just had to make do with what was available. Perhaps lack of freezer access caused the aging process worked more quickly on older generations of vamps.
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      Angel of Vengeance
      Q: Will Angel of Vengeance be available in Kindle format? Thank you!
      Trevor: I don’t know for sure about a Kindle version, but I suspect that there will be an e-version of the book at some point…(NB: since this interview was done an e-version & kindle format of Angel of Vengeance has become available)
      ***
      Q: I loved Angel of Vengeance’s ‘“Mick” & wondered if you & Alex talked about how dark the character was? Also does Joel Silver/Warner Bros. have the movie rights i.e. are they all tied up into “Moonlight”? And have you heard anything more about a movie?
      Trevor: It’s hard to remember exactly now, but I do believe Alex & I discussed my darker version early on in the process. At one point he asked to read my feature script which was based on the novel & we talked about it & some of the differences. And yes, WB has the rights to ‘Moonlight’ & they are the ones who will ultimately decided if there is a movie made of it, or a future show or tv movie…I have not heard anything to make me think that something like that is in the works however…
      ***
      Q: If there was to be a film made of AoV, keeping true to the book, who would be your ideal choice (living or dead) to play Mick Angel?
      Trevor: Hmm. Well, I don’t have the perfect actor in mind, but I still like the idea of a young Mickey Rourke circa his Angelheart period. I also like maybe a Clive Owen, or Adrien Brody… I would like to see it played by an actor with some real emotional depth & some dark things going on inside…
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      Fan Fiction
      Q: With all of the really well written Moonlight FanFic, have you ever had the chance to read any of the many stories?
      Trevor: I’ve only read one or two pieces in the past, & those came highly recommended & were actually very good. As with all those involved in creating shows, reading fanfic can be a little worrisome. The last thing any writer wants is to be accused of having been influenced by something they saw or read elsewhere. For this reason, the general wisdom is to stay away from fanfic, especially while a show is running. In general however, although i don’t personally read much of it myself, I’m very supportive of fanfic & anything that gets people writing & creating.
      ***
      Q: Alex once admitted his own fascination with the ambiguous nature of Vampires, & as I like to say ‘Vampires are outside the realms of human constructed notions of sexuality’. What’s your take on this aspect of the Vampire, & if it had been possible, would you have considered exploring a past relationship between Mick & Josef?
      Trevor: It’s an interesting question. In general, I think that being caught up as he is in the sort of hard-boiled, and lets face it- narrow-minded views on sexuality of his era, as conceived, whatever Mick’s impulses might be, in his current state of mind it seems unlikely that he would enter into a romantic relationship with another man. Even in the reality of the show, where Mick is more sensitive & in touch with who he is, I think if that were to be a reality, it feels like it would have to come after a longer period of time further down the line, as Mick lives on and sees beyond the mores that were instilled in him as a man of his day, rather than in his past. For me, Mick & Josef’s friendship was always one about a brotherly love, trust, loyalty & mutual respect. But I think it’s totally cool if people want to explore other dynamics in fanfic. It’s all up for grabs in the creative universe.
      ***
      Q: Do you differentiate between Fan Fiction written for Moonlight & Fan Fiction written for Angel of Vengeance. Are you ok with one, but not the other, or are you happy enough for fans to write Fan Fiction of both?
      Trevor: I’m happy to have people write whatever fanfic they want to write. I’m a big believer in the creative process. Personally, I get my kicks creating wholly new characters & worlds, but I think whatever gets someone involved in the process is a good thing. On top of being flattering, it’s just nice to see others become interested & involved with characters I have created & love, whether it’s Moonlight, or Angel of Vengeance…
      ***
      Q: At what point did you become aware of the existence of Fan Fiction, was it when the show was still on the air? What about my side of the fence (I’m assuming you knew that such a thing as Slash Fiction existed before you spoke to me), when did you find out about that side of things?
      Trevor: I don’t think I really knew about fanfic until the strike. I think I may first have heard about it from fans who came out to support us while that was going on. If not, if was sometime soon after that when I began connecting with fans on the internet. As for Slash Fiction, I became aware of that far more recently, but yes I had already gotten the low down on it before you & I discussed it.
      ***
      Q: If someone came to you for advice on how to write the four main characters (ie Mick, Beth, Josef, Coraline), what advice would you give them?
      Trevor: I think the key is giving each a distinct personality & viewpoint. Also using the idea of opposites like points on a compass can be helpful. Generally when people are forced to come together, the greater the differences, the more interesting the interactions…
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      General
      Q: With the amount of vampire fiction that currently exists, it seems every author needs to put his or her own spin on the vampire mythology to make it unique. How easy or difficult did you find it to come up with your own mythology?
      Trevor: I found it pretty easy to do in my case. One of the best parts of the process was putting my own stamp on the vampire mythos & just having fun with it. I general, I tried to do two things: Make the rules fall in line with noir storylines, & try to make more logistical sense of the rules that existed. For instance giving vampires a shadow & a reflection, but tweaking what they saw in the mirror.
      ***
      Q: When you write, do you have a good idea of where the whole story is going & how the characters will develop before you start? Or is it more of an initial flash of inspiration, and seeing where it takes you when you start to write?
      Trevor: I do it both ways. When I am hired to write something I usually give them the basic pitch & lay-out & then I develop an entire outline before I start, as per the dictates of a writing contract. However, I prefer to have the burst of inspiration, & maybe an idea of where to start & where to end, & then just let the characters lead the way…
      ***
      Q: Which do you prefer – writing a book, or writing for television?
      Trevor: I like writing both. My goal as a writer is to have as many different avenues & formats to tell stories in as possible. They each have their positives & it keeps things interesting to be able to switch between them…
      ***
      Q: What do you think of the current resurgence of all things vampire?
      Trevor: I love vampires, & it’s fun to see vampires coming back so strongly, but it does feel like a lot of people have since jumped on the bandwagon. I’ve always been very selective with the vampire tales I tend to enjoy. Most I would rather leave than take, & it doesn’t seem to me that despite the greater numbers of vampire stories out there, that there seems to be a proportionally greater number of really intriguing, fresh vampires stories to be found.
      ***
      Q: Do you stay in contact with Alex, Sophia, Jason or any of the other cast members?
      Trevor: I talk with Sophia more than any of the others. We talked recently about possibly collaborating on something again down the line. I also exchange emails with Alex periodically, but since he got busy with H50 we haven’t really connected. I’ve also talked with Brian White and David Blue a little…
      ***
      Q: Excluding Moonlight, and Angel of Vengenace, who is your all time favourite vampire?
      Trevor: I don’t know if I have an all time favorite vampire. Of course I like Dracula, the daddy of them all. I’m also a big fan of Anne Rice’s Louis, as well as Blade, and David in the Lost Boys…
      ***
      Q: Just for fun: If it was possible, would you like to be a vampire? And if so, who would you like to turn you?
      Trevor: It’s a tough question. Living forever as an attractive, powerful being would be pretty cool, but the trade off in my mind- the loss of that which makes you human- which I have created for my vampires is a tough thing for me to accept. Ultimately, I think I’d have to say no, but if the right femme fatale caught me at a weak moment, I might choose differently… Or maybe she’d choose for me…
      ***
      Q: How & when did you first start writing? Did you always want to be a writer?
      Trevor: I pretty much knew I wanted to be a writer from a very early age. I loved stories & reading, & I quickly decided I wanted to write my own. The problem early on was that I didn’t have the vocabulary or language skills to be able to tell the stories in my head the way I wanted. It was very frustrating & I think that’s what made my mind up to learn how to do it & begin practicing at such a young age. I started writing “books” & stories some time during first grade & never stopped…

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      • visage13

        Great interview. I knew there had to be more to the story with Coraline and Beth having the same rare blood type.

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        • Yes pity they didn’t get to explore that more, there was so much in Moonlight that we still have questions for. Glad you enjoyed the interview, we had a lot of fun coming up with the questions and reading Trevor’s answers 🙂

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      • Great read! Thanks for posting, Emerald. So much interesting things at least I didn’t know of. When was it taken? May I post it to our site? (ok, would take a while, first have to translate it 😉 )

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        • It was done last year as a special Q&A for the Moonlight Messageboard I co-admin. Trevor also recently joined us for a 2 and half hour chat, which was a lot of fun. He’s also joined other forums, like Moonlight Forever as well for fan chats. He’s very generous with his time.

          I think it will be okay to share this, just please credit it to Trevor Munson, courtesy of Emerald and the Moonlight VampSisters Messageboard. And if you could put in a link to the board as well, that would be much appreciated. http://moonlightvampsisters.proboards.com/index.cgi

          🙂

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      • venia

        Hay that was a great interviews. Thanks Emerald for that. Oh moonlight brings back such good memoris. Like someone said it isa shame we coudl not look more into the storyline. Mick with more vampire powers. Where beth and mick relationship went from there, but thank you for bring back a good memory.

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  9. Ontlls

    Okay I am big fan of pilot for Moonlight – Not a big fan of pilot of Twilight, I am glad I saw it, but I like the Moonlight version much better.
    Alex looked great in both of them, his hair was shorter in Twilight, and he was a big different. He looked great at the end of Twilight. That look of being a monster, Oh my.. *THUD* but the Hug in Moonlight’s episode at the end is the best! 🙂 I like Alex’s look much better in Moonlight then in Twilight!
    I like Moonlight’s setting in LA. Enough shows are filmed in NY.
    Moonlight’s Beth is great, I liked her. Twilight’s Beth, not a fan.
    Moonlight’s Coraline – Okay, but not a fan, but I like Twilight’s Coraline – isn’t that Carri-Ann Moss from FX Series and other shows.
    Love Moonlight’s Joseph – not a big fan of the older Joseph, if he was that old, their friendship wouldn’t he be more like a father figure??
    WOW!! Longest post for me about Moonlight/Twilight.

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  10. I had no idea about any of this, wow. What I do know is that CBS knew Alex was a keeper and they stuck with him until they achieved success. For all of our frustrations with the network, they still have given me a lot of good TV to watch with this guy. Thanks for the detail.
    Brenda

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    • Like Trevor says in the q&a above Alex was the only one who scored positively with test audiences, hence the recasting, he was the only one people came out of a viewing going ‘Yeah, we like him’. I think that told CBS something right from the get go.

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      • I´m not surprised. I didn´t like any of the original cast, couldn´t picture those others being part of a succesfull show.

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        • The way they advertised the show originally as well was like they were way too busy either copying previous adverts from other shows, such as Angel (seriously google ‘Angel the series’ and see the similarities between some of the promo shots’) and also the whole drumming it in that ‘our Vampires are different’, which got a lot of the Forever Knight fans off side, because they saw similarities that even I can see are there, plus the Moonlight vampires owed more to the traditional Vampires of the 19th century than any spectacular ‘new way’ of doing Vampire lore. That’s one of the things I loved about the show, it was 19th century Vampire lore translated into a modern age. I mean Mick St John himself might as well be Sir Francis Varney from Varney the Vampire (James Malcolm Rymer circa 1847), the two characters are that close on paper.

          It still doesn’t compare to the shoddy job they did of advertising the show in Australia. Seriously the (very) few ads I did see made it sound like it was just another run of the mill detective show with a not so interesting twist, Ho Hum, don’t think I’ll be tuning in to watch this. It was only be complete accident that I just happened to have the TV tuned to the right channel at the right time, and heard Mick say the words “That I’m a Vampire”. I couldn’t get in front of the TV fast enough! 😀

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      • AlexNymph

        I think Nina Tassler has as big a crush on Alex as we do, and that
        is why she kept him at CBS. FU CBS, but thank you, Nina!

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  11. Audrey

    That was a fabulous interview with Trevor. I’ve love Moonlight with a passion from day one.
    I did see the original pilot and was happy that they had changed it. Even the way Mick looked was totally different. I prefer the Moonlight look better.
    In fact that’s what drew me to the series in the first place. Seeing the ads with Alex doing the interview, he just caught my eye and WHAM, I was hooked.
    I’ve read AoV several times and have enjoyed every time. I think Mick Angel was more edgier than St. John, less human.
    Now I can’t wait for Trevor’s next novel to come out.

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  12. venia

    Oh MOONLIGHT for sure. After looking at the first test twilight I can see why they had to make the changes that they did. And for the better. The first cast just did not have it. I mean younger josef was way better and the one I fell in love with and I like the fact that they were both the same age perfect. Even thow I never took a liking to beth and I am glad the made the changes to the moonlight beth the first one was not working at all and very sad. I think the location would not make much of a difference I think I would not have mind New York. In the end what drew me to MOONLIGHT was Alex as mick and those interviews with mick , that CBS ran. I never took to the tv show Angel so to me I was looking for a vampire and to me Mick and MOONLIGHT were it.

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  13. I’m very glad they went with the name Moonlight and the “new” cast. And is anyone surprised Alex is the one aspect that the test audiences liked? I remember when I first saw an advertisement for ML and saw Alex I said (out loud) “Who the f**k is that guy?” And obviously I never got over him!
    😀

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  14. Helloeeze

    Thanks for posting that interview, Emerald. I had read it a while back but my memory fades. Interesting that in Sleeping Beauty, Josef had a fire room to escape too. We all thought he had that special bloodline that Lance had!

    I liked the pilot. Alex’s Mick comes through. The part where Beth finds out the truth about Mick is powerful. Of course, they were condensing the whole plot of the series down to one episode as a pilot.

    I also liked the older Josef. Fabulous actor. Wish he had a part in Moonlight. But I think a younger Josef is good, because Moonlight desperately needed a younger audience, and a younger Josef helped attract those viewers.

    I am glad Sophia was Beth. She is such an amazing actress. She came off as a strong Beth than this pilot Beth, who came off girlish.

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  15. I REALY ENJOYED THIS MARVELOUS POST. Special thanks to Emerald for her wonderful “Interview With The Vampire”s Daddy”LOL Trevor is a VERY special man!!
    It’s So weird but I was watching the original “Twilight pilot this after noon. Very interesting !!!I I did not care for the original cast at all except of course for our lovely Mick
    I. thought the original “Beth” was very pretty but bland and in NO way compared to Sophia Myles stunning beauty and talent. Amber Valleta tho an ex model and beautiful woman just looked far to OLD as Coraline to be Mick;s paramour.. She was lvery badly lit
    Even Guillermo is cute and adorable in MOONLIGHT. The first Guillermo ___ NO.!!
    Josef. A great European actor with great “Prescence” but I MUCH prefer our cheeky young and sexy Josef in MOONLIGHT
    MOONLIGHT RULES——Oh if only—-IF ONLY !!!!

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  16. lunaterra12

    This was a great post. So glad it wasn’t about that other dang “Twilight.” lol That being said, I much prefer Moonlight to the original pilot. I think if they would’ve went that route, it would have never became popular, and ended within a few episodes,

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