Alex O’Loughlin ……Is the real man good enough for you?

Most of the Alex O’Loughlin fans will agree with me that we all think Alex is good enough as he is. NO need for enhancements here……
A lot of us fiddle with pictures and do some projects with photo’s of Alex, that we use for fun. Some of us use his pictures to make beautiful creation….And I love them!

For some projects people sometimes photo shop pictures and it can be really funny. We all see them and laugh at them at first and enjoy them. I do not blame people for doing them. BUT sometimes those pictures start to feature alone and people think the pictures are real. Mostly new fans, that have not yet spent hours upon hours, staring and studying pictures of this gorgeous man. They get fooled easily and start posting these pictures as if they are real pictures of Alex. I want to start a campaign to identify these pictures and to clear up the boards of these fake pictures. (Please know that I have nothing against anybody that created these picture. We all play around with pictures)

I experience actual physical pain every time I see this picture……..Why?

  • The proportions of this is so wrong
  • The only time Alex’s body was nearly this clean-shaven was in FEED and then his hair was blond and longer
  • The wrap-around tattoos are wrong
  • That flat V-line…..really?
  • AND whatever is in those pants are way too small… 😛

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Some other pictures that are frequently seen and posted as pictures of Alex…….

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In my personal opinion there are so many beautiful pictures of Alex and Scott and Steve and Danny available. Can’t we rather use them, that to slap Alex’s face onto another man’s body? I am sure every die-hard hot-blooded O’Caan fan would rather see a real picture of the boys together than a manipulated one?!

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Those short shiny forearms and legs……ewwwww. I know we all would love to see this sort of picture of Alex, but I would rather wait a lifetime for that, than to drool over this fake one.

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I know we want him pantsless……but I rather take all his real parts…..even if they are spray painted to hide his tattoos and the rest wrapped in pants, carrying JLo’s bag. 🙂

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I can see the fun intended with this photo and I understand it – we will never get a real picture like that of Alex, will we?…….But it still freaks me out quite a bit.

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Most of the fans might disagree with me and like this picture…..how do you feel??

For me Alex is a far better model than the body in this picture – Here are the comparison to show you the face used for this creation:

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There are a few more pictures around on the internet, but I never saved them and haven’t seen them lately. If you know about any other pictures, please let me know, so that we can also identify them as fake.

Update: April 2013

This is NOT a picture of Alex:

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My Request:

Please scan your boards and albums and erase these picture from your sites and boards OR if you really like them so much, just clearly identify them as fake (photo shopped) pictures of Alex. Help our new Alex fans to get to know the REAL Alex O’Loughlin. There are so many beautiful and sexy pictures of him around – let us rather share them…….why create fakes?

Please take the time to read the follow-up post and my answers to comments from this post, by clicking on the link – here

Thank you to ♥ Suzie ♥ @graciemonkey for helping me find some of these picture again.

If you would like to know more about the original pictures:

Link to my Pinterest page about these pictures

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111 responses to “Alex O’Loughlin ……Is the real man good enough for you?

  1. LOL Good to see you back with new article and just for the record, I checked our pictures on @Amazing O’Caan, and I didn’t find neither of them *ufff* and this one with “Alex & Scott” I always explain as a fake one and at this point, yes, being O’Caan fan? I love more to see real pictures than manips 🙂 Aloha!

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    • FOYeur

      Thanks Domi.
      I really hope people will get the spirit of the article. People that know this site will know we are about fun. And for me part of fun is being creative. Playing with pictures of our favorite subject is fun. But it should never be posted as real pictures to fool people that do not know better.

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  2. Although I can’t say I feel physical pain when I see these faked photos, I understand what you’re saying because I definitely feel repulsed! It’s just wrong to take that beautiful man and put the “parts” of anyone else on him, and when I see those pictures every cell in my brain screams, “why would you do that?!” The really odd part is that I see some long-time Alex O’Loughlin fans sharing these photoshopped images. I actually have a policy that they can’t be posted in my AOL group and for the life of me I can’t understand how anyone can do that to him. How would you feel if a loved one photoshopped your head onto someone else’s body? Yuck, yuck, yuck!

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    • FOYeur

      Terry, the pain usually comes with that first picture and the comments with it, of how beautiful he is. 🙂
      And I also want to thank you for the wonderful pictures of Alex, you post on a daily basis. They are really beautiful and one can see how much you adore the “subject”. Thanks for that!!

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  3. Emerald

    We have a rule on one of the Facebook groups I co-admin that any photo manipulations be identified as such. There are much worse ones of Alex out there than those as well, full frontal, x rated (some of the Steve/Danno manips leave nothing to the imagination). I’ve done at least one Josef/Mick kissing manip, plus another couple where it’s implied they’re embracing. With slashy pictures of characters it’s a bit different, from my point of view at least, because we’re never going to get that unless we do create it ourselves, they’re not going to let us see it on the show. When it comes to the actors themselves, and manipulating them – for example the Scott and Alex picture above I see as Scott and Alex not Steve and Danno, therefore the manip squicks me out – I don’t see the point personally.

    Having said all that, manips are hard to do, and I have to at least give artistic credit to anyone who can pull off a decent one.

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    • Emerald

      Just adding to the above, I’ll be perfectly honest I do think it’s going a bit too far to talk about starting a campaign to rid the boards of these sorts of pictures. As long as they are clearly identified as photo manipulations, and not being passed off as the real deal, I don’t see what harm the pictures themselves are doing just by existing or being shared. Or to put it another way, if you (general you) want the right to publish whatever pictures you wish to put up, then as long as no one is being duped by the pictures being passed off as the real deal, the creators of these manips should be given the right to publish their creations without fear of other fans coming after them in some sort of ‘clean up campaign’.

      I actually had a campaign, back in 2008, being run against me by a segment of the Moonlight fandom who wanted to stop me publishing by slash fan art because I was presenting the characters in an untrue light. Trust me, it wasn’t a good feeling, and it’s not the sort of thing I’d personally want to encourage in any fandom or group of fans.

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      • FOYeur

        My problem is with these spesific pictures above, that are posted on Pinterest, Tumblr and Facebook with a BIG Alex O’Loughlin written next to it and the a “OMG, he is sooooo beautiful, THUD…..!”
        If you read what I wrote, I clearly stated I have nothing agains playing with pictures and to create art for stories. But to pass this off on Alex O’Loughlin pin boards and general sites that new fans regularly visit….there lies my pain!!
        I myself have created pictures for use in stories and really don’t judge any of it at all…..as I have written.

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      • FOYeur

        Emerald. Just to add. – If you read my last request and the whole article again, you will see that I have written exactly what you wrote in this comment. I just don’t want people to be fooled by the picture.
        I have not written one word against photo shopping as art for a spesific part of the fandom, that people can cleary see as fan-art and that it is not real.
        For all I care people can make all sort of nude Alex fan art as much as they want (we have even asked Paula to make us some nudes of Alex many times :grin:) …..as long as fans do not re-post it on all the fanboards, saying it is really Alex….it must just stay in context.

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        • Emerald

          Now that I agree with, as long as no one is being mislead into believing these pictures are real. I have a problem with people passing these manips off as Alex when they’re not, except for his head. That’s why the rule on our Facebook group is manips are okay, but they have to be indicated as such.

          We have permission from Alex’s publicist to use Alex’s image in any fanart that promotes organ donor awareness, so long as no one is profiting from it. I’m sure she knows other types of fanart go on as well, but I don’t think they’re really too bothered by it, it’s more one of those things they just accept as fans having fun. I believe Alex himself said in an interview or chat once, in regards to fan ficiton and other fan activities, that anything that engages the fans with a character is a good thing. Like you said, the problem comes when people try to pass off a picture as the real deal when it’s not.

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  4. Khyanna

    This is a really good topic! Thanks for doing this. 🙂

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  5. Great article Foyeur so glad I could help, I’m so happy that you are getting the word out because these pictures do really annoy me they are just ugly IMO they do nothing for me & they certainly don’t do Alex any justice, he is amazing & beautiful just as he is he needs absolutely NO PHOTOSHOPPING lol & I was right I hadn’t seen the bike pic before this was the first time & it like all the others is so WEIRD lol & the pic of Alex & Scott while it’s a very good manip I have actually seen much more affectionate & cute pics of them that are real so I don’t get why someone would create their own. 😉

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  6. LindaSue

    I am so glad you posted this. To me, all of them (except the motorcycle one, which I had never seen before) are SO CREEPY. I cannot understand why anyone wants to manipulate perfection!!

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  7. We realise photo shopped pics can´t be erased from the internet, but if you post these, please mention, it is a fake, clearly. Having posted that motorcycle one myself as a real pic, and then found out it is fake, was a bit embarrasing. I totally get the fun of photo shopping and being creative with pics can´t be banned. Ps my aim is to create such a good photo shopped pic it won´t be made as fake 😉

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  8. Great article, so happy you wrote this 🙂

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  9. I know there’s one more: Alex with guns looking more like Prince of Persia game character – it’s so fake and awfully done that no fan of Alex will believe it’s real. And body on bike under Alex’ head is James Masters (or Victor Hesse)… I’ll post that picture to you on Facebook in inbox…

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  10. HEAR HEAR! I so agree with You! Photoshoping a party hat on them or making amazingly funny videos wit them, like Jen (@givinplanks) does is showing our affection and geek-love for them. Body-morphing and interchanging heads with existing people is disrespectful and fraudulent. Especially if done in such a professional matter that we are mostly fooled. Expect for the eagle eyed ladies on here, who are not fooled. (I hereby bow before you my ladies)

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    • FOYeur

      Yes Natalie, I have enjoyed many a goofy funny manipulated Alex. This is not about taking the fun out of fangirling at all. 😀

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      • Exactly.Me too, there’s no harm in them. But fakies are wrong. To me its about respect, or the lack of it. But sometimes we go to far and need someone to tell us in a friendly way. So I think Your article and initiative are a good thing.

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  11. Kimphin1

    Very detailed research! Kudo’s!

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  12. Jonna13

    Thank you so much for this post.
    Some of these photomontages are really disgusting, especially the one with the chocolate fingers. Can`t believe, that “real fans” do something like that and find their “work” beautiful! Unbelievable…

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  13. I think it was a great idea to put these pictures up. There is one more of Alex dressed in Navy whites that was actually a picture of Kevin Costner. The person who created it, always stated it was photo shopped, but as it got passed around people began to think it was real.

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    • FOYeur

      Alyssa, I saw that picture a while ago and with Alex at the moment playing a Navy SEAL, it did not really bother me that much (and I also loved Kevin in that movie 😀 ). I wish the show will give us some more footage of him in uniform – we haven’t seen him in the white uniform yet, have we?. He does look wonderful in uniform (well in everything actually)
      Alex in his career is part of a make believe world and the lines of reality and fiction can be a bit hazy.. 😀

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  14. vanduyn

    I love this article!! I agree with you, I have seen a lot of these pics identified as Alex and I just get crazy… especially that first one!! Anyone that studies Alex as “we” all do knows that is not his body!!! No way!! I too can appreciate a great “created” pic of Alex as long as it’s labeled as such. And the one of him with chocolate on his hand?! OMG!!! I hate that one!!! It’s creepy! Thanks FOYeur!! 😀

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  15. angel

    As a fact I did most of the manips shown above. I’ve always pointed out clearly that these ARE indeed manips. So I was totally surprised to find them on Ebay and they were sold as “originals”. This isn’t my fault. My watermark was erased by the seller and the pic was cropped, as well. I contacted ebay and they took care of the seller. What’s so bad about tasteful manips? I know there’s a lot of shit out there incl. nude stuff (YUCK). But to go on a witch hunt for manips in general is not okay. Just my two cents …

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    • FOYeur

      Thanks for your response.
      Just one question…..what is WRONG with the REAL Alex O’Loughlin that he need to be maniped unto other LESS beautiful bodies?

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  16. canadagirl66

    I am so happy you made this post FOYeur!!!! I have been launching my only personal mini crusade on Pinterest…every time I see fake pictures of AOL I comment on the fact that it is NOT him!!! In fact I think my last rant was about that first god awful pic. When someone asked me why I didn’t think it was Alex I listed the very same things you did…the hairlessness…the tat in the wrong position… and that Alex fills out a pair of pants WAY better than this poor dude!!!
    Looking at all of these photoshopped pics disgusts and pains me and I ask WHY.WHY.WHY. would someone mess with what is already perfection… WHY?!!!
    p.s. I am also not a huge fan of pics where the color of his eyes has been changed …his eyes are already so beautiful and change color on their own anyway….depending on how tired he is or what he is wearing. I’m sure great care and affection goes into making those pics but IMHO, they don’t do Alex and his already mesmerizing eyes any justice.
    There..I’ll get off my little soap box now and thanks again FOYeur and Paula for giving people like me who have a lot to say, a place to say it!!!

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    • FOYeur

      I got tired of the mini crusades and thought I’ll go BIG on it!! 🙂
      And the main question as you say remains…..WHY?
      PS. We always what to have a save place for people to share their love for Alex……any way they want to!! 🙂

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  17. Kath40

    The manip of Alex on the morercycle is really a pic of James Marsters (Spike/Buffy) http://www.listal.com/viewimage/1301373h I got foold by the fake too.

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    • FOYeur

      Kath40
      Sorry I only comment on your comment now. It landed in our spam box, because of the link and we had to approve it first (I do not know why, because it is not suppose to happen :grin:). Thank you for sending the link, I did not know what the original looked like.

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  18. angel

    Nothing’s wrong. Why should something be wrong? And wha manips? It’s fun. You see photoshopped stuff every day. Or do you think the models on the cover of high gloss magazines are real? Or Britney Spears on the cover of Rolling Stone looks like that in real life? Btw. I wasn’t asked by the author to use my stuff and I think you find far more worse manips out there. Do you have a clue how many “fans” are asking me to shop them together with Alex on a pic? THAT is an absolutely NO GO for me. And they do it all the time and they don’t point out that this isn’t real. Instead they get compliments of other fans of how great these pics have turned out. But stand alone manips with Alex … it’s nothing more than a development of a usual fanart. The better the manip the more real it looks and yes, some people are fooled by it. Not my intention – like I say – my stuff comes always along with a warning! I’ve no influence on what others do with it. I find plenty of my arts all over the net, without credit or even altered with another watermark.

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    • canadagirl66

      Okay it might be fun to make these pics for your own enjoyment…but why release them on the internet? You must have known that they would eventually be all over the place and that people would believe that they were really pics of Alex!!

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    • FOYeur

      Angel, as you can see my article said nothing of photoshopping in general. Everybody does it….we on here do it as well.
      But to ulter identities, that is something different……
      To be honest with you, if I was Alex I would really be totally offended to see my face on the body of that hairless boy on that first picture.
      To me as a fan, Alex has a perfect body….it really can’t see why it is not good enough for others, thats all. 😦
      As you have lost the influence on you pictures…..I am now trying my best to get it back for you and warn people.

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  19. Alicia

    Oh thank you so much for this article. Don’t know how many times I’ve seen these and one here I didn’t know was fake and was like are you messing with perfection? My other issue are people Photoshopping themselves with Alex really again why? Lastly taking his last name and using with your first name then making a Facebook account. Please stop we are all fans but that’s it leave the fantasy out of it. If you can’t write about in a story or video but list it a fantasy don’t lie and make people think it’s real because it’s just not right. Alex is an exotic man don’t mess with perfection …

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    • FOYeur

      Thanks Alicia, I am glad you appreciate the article.
      As far as photoshopping themselves into pictures, I can not blame people for doing it. Not all of us will ever get the chance to be photographed with him and we all dream (not that I like it)….but it is a very fine line they are walking to put themselves on somebody else’s body. As long as they do not claim the photos to be real and post it as real fan photos.
      I myself am not using my real name for my fangirling, so I also can not blame others for using fake names – even if it is part of Alex’s name. The only real problem I have is with people claiming to be the real Alex on FB or Twitter or anywhere else
      All this fan girling is a bit of a fantasy world and definitely far removed from my reality!
      And I totally agree with you….”Alex is an exotic man don’t mess with perfection…”

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  20. angel

    Art theft has always been a common problem and always will be. Pardon me? Why I release my stuff on the net? Probably, I wanna share it with others. Don’t put all the blame on me, dear canadagirl66. Put the blame on those who (mis)use them, no matter what. If I were Alex I would also be offended by being degraded to a piece of meat by so many fans. Or by certain (graphic) fanfics, or by all those ill fitted santa hats at Christmas. ;o)

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    • FOYeur

      Fangriling is a fantasy world and we all do silly stuff….party hats and making meat of him is part of who we are…..we also see his goofiness and his wonderful talent as actor!!
      But the offended part for me, is in that you do not see Alex’s OWN body as good enough for him and replace it with somebody you think looks better. Well, I like the whole Alex O’Loughlin and see no need to slap his face on another man’s body….even in the name of so called “art”……
      BTW. if you tell me which pictures are yours, I will credit you for them.

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    • canadagirl66

      I don’t know anything about you dear angel, but I do know that you are not an Alex O’Loughlin fan…that much is obvious. And I do not blame people for misusing your photos. Most of them pining or reposting them innocently believe that they really are of Alex. I don’t even blame the people who attempt to profit off them…if someone puts them out there and thinks they will never be sold then that is their problem. I do feel sorry for the people that paid good money for crap though!
      As for implying that those here think of Alex as a piece of meat…you couldn’t be more wrong. We have a lot of fun discussing his many fine attributes but I guarantee you that every last one of us admires and respects Alex for the kind of actor and man that he is!
      And a real fan of Alex’s would know that if he read this blog (and many others dedicated to him) he would laugh his @ss off!!!

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  21. angel

    And I love my ass off reading all these comments here!

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  22. angel

    I love my ass off, and laugh my ass off LOL

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    • Glad to hear you are not hurt by the comments here. Just an idea, if you like creating with Alex, why not make your photoshops look like they are fan art, instead of just cropping Alex´s head off and adding that to an existing photo, why not create the entire picture with a different background, make it look like it is actually a fan made graphic. The way the above pics are done, make it look like they were meant to fool people into thinking those are real.
      I do wish you and others would consider the disappointment of Alex fans when they find out they´ve been fooled, next time you get “creative”.

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      • canadagirl66

        …and I apologize for being a little harsh…in the heat of the moment my comments seemed appropriate…now I realize it was not my place to make disparaging remarks. As many here know, I adore AOL and will defend him and his “image” at all costs…and sometimes in doing so I can be insensitive to others feelings.

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        • FOYeur

          CG, thanks for you sharing your passion for Alex. You make being a fangirl fun for me as well. And always feel safe to say how you feel here – even in the heat of the moment!

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  23. I don’t know the majority of you, but I do know Angel. I have had many conversations over the past two years with her and I admire her. She has provided many beautiful screencaps and manips throughout this time, always giving credit for the pictures and making it very clear that her manips are just that.

    You know, I don’t think it’s so much a question of what’s wrong with Alex’ real body as a creative imagination thinking up a story line and creating a manip that places the celebrity into the scene. It’s a form of creative license. The reason why body parts need to be changed is that there probably is no exact picture of the person that fits the story. So, you photoshop several pictures to make the story work.

    Facebook can be your friend or your worst enemy. If you don’t have your privacy settings just so, then what you put on your timeline or share with a friend, can end up all over the place with watermarks removed. Twitter can be the same. Ultimately, each and every person using social media has a responsibility to know what they are sharing. The other side of the coin is that social media is free. As long as you are not posting illegal pictures, you have the right to post whatever you want on your own site or to your friends.

    It might be admirable to want to help new fans realize the error of their ways. I would suggest doing it in a way that is less demeaning and embarrassing to the artists. They are not bad people purposely attempting to pull the wool over anyone’s eyes for profit. They create pictures from their own imagination and share it with their friends. That is their right, just as it is your right to share your disgust for it here on your blog.

    Thank you for allowing me to share my point of view.

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    • FOYeur

      Hi Jlopie1
      Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts and defending you friend. I like it when people feel the freedom to come here and share their thought, because that is what we want.
      Most of what you said is exactly what I said in my artlcle. And as I have said I myself have also done manipulations to tell a story, as has many fanfic writers and other people have done to fit their stories.
      As Angel said she lost control over her creations and people started using them as real and on a daily basis post them with the words “Alex O’Loughlin” next to it.. My answer to her was that I am claiming it back for her and that is what I have done in a sense.
      I tried my best to do this in subtle way by showing people to the error of posting these pictures as real pictures of Alex on their boards. Wel frankly I got tired of it. And I will most probably follow this article up with even more articles about fake photos as I come accross them.
      For me Alex O’Loughlin is an artist, whether he is in front of a movie, TV or photographers lense. He creates art by playing roles. As a model he plays a role for that magazine. For me what Angel did was to say to him, “Sorry Alex, you as an artist and as a man was not good enough for me. I will just take your head and I will make you better” ……other people might agree or disagree with me. And Angel might not have meant that, when she created her “art”, but unfortunately her art has turned into Frankenstein Monsters for me.
      If Angel feels I embarressed her, just as much has been the embarresment of every fan I had to tell that those pictures are not really Alex.
      I have also made many mistakes on here in things I wrote and when people showed me I a wrong, felt embarressed and have admitted my mistakes.
      I actually want every one of us to think what we are doing on social media and take responsability for it. And I admire Angel very much for taking responsability for her “art”.
      For me, being a fan of Alex, means having fun following him and admiring him for who he is and that is for all of him (he has lots of flaws and that makes him perfect to me).
      My question in the title is, “Is the real man good enough for you? My answer – Alex is good enough for me………

      (And again, thank you for sharing your thoughts and also allowing me to clarify my thoughts about why I wrote this article.)

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      • This is what makes a good forum – allowing people to express their views, and giving people a chance to clarify what they mean. It’s also the bad thing about social media that one can not see the person writing or posting because we can’t always correctly interpret a person’s actions or feelings just by the written word.

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  24. Ok…here is my take on this. First of all, I like jlopie1 am a good friend of Angel and I too enjoy her manips and her screencaps of episodes very much. We have been online buddies for over 2 years now and I respect her very much. I also enjoy this blog and follow on Twitter some of those that have posted above.

    The thing is, FOYeur’s basic point is valid. That whoever creates the manips should always indicate that they ARE manips and not put them out there as original shots. Angel ALWAYS does this so Angel isn’t the type of person FOYeur is talking about. Unfortunately, to highlight her piece, she chose to use manips that ARE Angel’s so it looked like a personal attack on her. I don’t think that was intended but that’s what she did. Angel was insulted and rightly so. As a person who knows Angel well I can promise you she is a die hard Alex and Five-0 fan… period. Anyone who suggests otherwise simply does not know what they are talking about.

    Everyone chooses to express their admiration in different ways. Some create fan fiction, which many love and many hate and some create manips which, again, many people love and many people hate. So is the world of any creative art form be it written, painted or played. There are those who will simply love it and those that will loathe it. It is not a matter of thinking that Alex isn’t good enough. Quite the contrary. It IS the fact that Alex is the man and model he is that makes him a subject worthy of attention. I highly doubt this is an issue with any actor who isn’t extremely attractive.

    The issue isn’t so much the creation of the manips but the distribution of which Angel and those like her who create them have no control. They do their part. They identify them as manips right off the bat. They put their personal watermark on each piece. They tell everyone and anyone to please not distribute the shots without the disclaimer AND the watermark. However, people don’t listen and off the manips go into cyberspace where unsuspecting newbies get their panties in a twist over the “great new Alex photo shoot” This can not be blamed on the persons who created the manip. No more so than a musician can be blamed if a filmmaker takes his music and uses it in an objectionable way.

    So, you guys do not like the manips. That’s ok. I see modern art in a museum and it looks like so much finger painting to me…I just don’t get it. It’s everyone right to like or not like whatever they like. But just because I don’t care for modern art does not mean I think it should not exist. I myself, back when I first discovered Alex fell for some of the manips myself. The Alex in White Uniform mentioned above was the one that got me. I was told by someone that it wasn’t a real photo. I did not feel duped…I thought “Wow..it’s amazing how they can do that!” That photo is still on my computer in a special folder I have called “Alex but not Alex”. They are fun for what they are.

    Being a newbie is just that. They are NEW to everything and it is our job as seasoned Alex and Five-0 watchers to educate them just as I was educated when I was a newbie. I did not resent it. I did not get angry. I did not feel duped. As a matter of fact it was just those who I now follow on Twitter and those that I now consider Ohana who educated me and now I have these wonderful online friends.

    Just take it for what it is. If you don’t like it…fine..no harm no foul. But it’s not right to suggest that they should not exist nor is it right to ask other people to remove them from their computers or their sites or their blogs. To each his own!

    Sorry…my soap box was a bit long today! Aloha!

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    • canadagirl66

      I appreciate you wanting to defend your friend…now I’m going to defend mine.
      We all need to remember that this is FOYeur”s blog…so she can post whatever she wants here. Some people may not agree with her but she is always accepting and respectful of conflicting opinions. She is also very tactful and would never say that if anyone thinks that certain things should not be posted here or finds that her words are offensive in any way that perhaps they should rethink about visiting this blog.
      You say that Angel is a true AOL fan….sorry but I don’t buy it. Most of her pics make Alex look ridiculous. If she cared about him she would want to see him portrayed in the best possible light.
      Yes, art is subjective but for many of us, these pics are not “art”…but rather a vehicle to degrade and disrespect a beloved actor!
      As you can see I do not possess FOYeur’s qualities of politeness and tactfulness (I really have to work on that), but if I’ve offended anyone in any way, then perhaps…well…you know….

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      • Emerald

        I’m sorry but saying that somoeone isn’t a ‘true AOL fan’ (seriously can we just quit it with the ‘true fan’ schtick, we’re all just ‘fans’ no one is better or worse than anyone else) because you don’t like the art they create, and think they look ridiculous, especially when they have taken care to label their art as not being the real deal, and from the sounds of it may have created the pieces by request, possibly to illustrate a fan fiction piece, makes about as much sense as saying I’m not a true Moonlight fan, because most of the early stuff I created looked even more ridiculous and the manips I’ve attempted are mediocre at best.

        We ALL express our fandom interests in different ways. Do I like the manips of Alex personally? No, I don’t. But then again I don’t really like anything that uses the actors themselves. That doesn’t mean though that I think anyone should be considered wrong in the way they express their fannish creativity (within reason of course). There’s no right or wrong way to be a fan, in my opinion.

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        • FOYeur

          I think it is difficult for somebody that love and like Alex for every single aspect of himself, to understand why somebody would not find the whole of him appealing enough to use for fanart?
          From there the quetion in the title of this article…….
          I would like everybody just to step back, put youself in Alex O’Loughlin’s shoes and see how you would feel if a fan present you or send you this picture and say: “Will you please autograph this picture of youself for me?”

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          • Emerald

            Well I have to agree that anyone who would send Alex an obviously photo manipulated picture to sign kind of deserves to be mocked relentlessly 😉 Well, not really, no one ‘deserves; to be mocked (except when they do) Sorry *ahem* I mean seriously there are enough pictures of Alex out there that it’s not really necessary to send the guy fan art, no matter how well intentioned or created. I mean I occasionally share some of my Mick St John wallpapers to his official Facebook page for other fans to enjoy, but I draw the line at actually sending him one of my creations for signing.

            “I think it is difficult for somebody that love and like Alex for every single aspect of himself, to understand why somebody would not find the whole of him appealing enough to use for fanart?”

            I can think of one very good reason – if someone has been requested to illustrate a fan fiction story. It doesn’t happen across the board in all fandoms, but there are some where it’s common to have some sort of graphic illustration or header for the story. Say, for example, the story involved a scene with Alex holding a towel in front of him, or reclining back on a motorbike – if the pictures don’t exist to illustrate that, then they get created.

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            • FOYeur

              Problem is …..people and even seasoned fans do not know they are manipulated. Paula posted one of these pictures on her Tumblr thinking it was real (It was a while ago – and she knows better now, but even she and one other of my friends were fooled by this picture)

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              • Emerald

                See I suppose that’s where we differ on this, because my first response to not recognising something as a manip would be ‘Oh wow, now that’s some serious talent’. Like I’ve said, manips of actors aren’t really my thing at all, character based manips I can get behind and I only wish I had several hundred ounces more talent to actually create some decent Josef/Mick manipulations, but depending on the skill of the artist and the subject matter my response to most actor based manips ranges from ‘meh’ to ‘dude, that’s just wrong’.

                I guess it just doesn’t bother me that much that Alex is being presented with a different body, because I don’t really care that much about his body in the first place. Obviously I care if he’s healthy, but trim, muscly, ‘moonlight meat’, podgy with a beer gut – heck 300 pounds and bald – I’m just not interested in Alex physically. He’s not my type (I tend to go for more androgynous, particularly effeminate guys, with a penchant for wearing make up – no really), and apart from the odd photograph here and there, I very rarely look at him and find him attractive. So from that point of view it doesn’t outrage me if someone chooses to put his head on a totally different bod, because chances are I’m paying zero attention to his bod in the first place.

                That’s just me though, when it comes to Alex I am a fan of his talent as an actor (seriously, the guy is a fantastic character actor, I’d love to see him in more roles that allowed him to showcase that a lot more) and I admire the charity work he’s involved in (obviously) and how he appears to come across in interviews, but anything beyond that (ie his looks/physical appearance) doesn’t do it for me.

                That’s just me though. 🙂

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                • FOYeur

                  Emerald you said it….this persons ability to photoshop is serious talent…..but I just wish people will stop calling what she creates art…..it is just photoshopping!!.
                  For me Alex as an actor is art….his WHOLE body portays his art. He spend 3 year learning to portray himself as art!! And also as a model he has portayed his art to the world. This person takes that art and defaces it and then call her own creations art.
                  She does these “frankensein creations” of Alex with the pure intention to manipulate and to deceive people. That is her aim….fans must drool over her monster more than over the real man – she said it herself on here….that is what gets her off

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                  • Emerald

                    “She does these “frankensein creations” of Alex with the pure intention to manipulate and to deceive people.”

                    Now come one, please? That is a bit out of line. She has stated she clearly marks all her works as manips and asks that if they are shared then other people do the same. If that’s the case then clearly her intention isn’t to deceive.

                    And of course it feels good when people enjoy your work to the point that you start getting asked to do requested pieces. I know what that feels like, it’s a buzz to have someone comment or message you to say ‘Hey, I love your work, do you think you could maybe make/write/put together something for me’. I don’t think she should be crucified for saying she enjoys knowing other fans enjoy her work.

                    I usually find the discussions your indepth research reports generates to be well thought out, insightful, passionate, yet delivered with respect. Right now I’m starting to feel like you’re beginning to attack for the sake of attacking, and I know you, and this blog are better than that.

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                    • canadagirl66

                      THAT’S IT…I HAVE HAD IT!!! THIS IS FOYEUR’S BLOG AND SHE CAN SAY AND POST ANYTHING SHE WANTS HERE…AND IF PEOPLE DON’T LIKE THEY SHOULD FIND SOME OTHER PLACE THAT MIGHT BE MORE ENJOYABLE TO THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                    • Emerald

                      Just in case it wasn’t clear, the above was meant with love and respect. I admire your work on this blog, and I admire the way you handle yourself and respect others opinions – I would never want to see this blog lose that aspect, because it’s what makes it such an interesting, fun, and thought provoking place to engage with.

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    • FOYeur

      Linda, thank you very much for you response. Although we don’t know each other, from what I have seen of you, I honour and respect your opinion in the fandom very much.
      I did this post out of pure frustration of what I came accross this past weekend on Twitter & Pinterest. And I can see you get the point that I wanted to make
      I still do not know who created all these pictures or if only one person have done them all.
      Unfortunately they are the only ones that are doing the rounds now and I did not go on a hunt to find any spesific ones…..they crossed my line of sight and disturbed my peace so to speak.
      There are lots more fan art around that I do not like……but none of them screamed at me: “Alex O’Loughlin, you are not good enough for the fans that say they like you!”…..unfortunately these do that to me, where they stand alone as pictures labeled with Alex O’Loughlin’s name on them and as I found them on the internet this weekend.
      As I said to Jlopie1, I do not know what Angel meant when she made them and whatever they were made for, makes no sense to me at all from where I am.
      And from there my question and answer again: “Is the real man good enough for you? My answer – Alex is good enough for me………a thousand times yes!!

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      • canadagirl66

        ME.TOO!!! (shocking, I know!!)

        Again, well said FOYeur!! And so tactful and polite. If I asked nicely would you be my Diplomacy Coach?!!!

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      • I won’t do anyone the dishonor of trying to speak for them. But I will speak in general. An artist, in whatever degree they practice their art and whether or not others consider what they do as art, creates for themselves. Whether it’s a song, a painting, a manuscript or a character on a screen. Whether it’s a chef putting a creating together in a kitchen. They create what they like for themselves. If they then decide they want to share what they have created with others they do, but ultimately what they have created is really what they themselves like.

        We don’t have to like it, we don’t have to look at it, listen to it, eat it, if we don’t want to or if we do and decide it’s not to our liking, so be it. Artists have always been misunderstood and sometimes down right ridiculed. It’s the nature of the beast. But it say they should not do what they do because we may not like it is unacceptable. It’s not possible for an artistic person to keep that inside. They simply must express it.

        I happen to like the manips. I think they are cleaver and show a degree of imagination and skill that I could never hope to posses. If you don’t care for them, that’s fine too. Like I said, to each his own.

        As to your last two statements…I don’t know Alex, of course except for the few candid moments we see in interviews but I tend to think Alex would think the entire discussion ridiculous. A) he does not see himself the way we see him. He has said so himself and B) he’d probably laugh at not only the manips themselves because, even though I happen to like them, they are always a bit silly, but at the extreme reactions of people to them. I don’t think Alex sees himself as someone who needs our protection.

        And lastly “Is the real man good enough for you? ” I agree…a thousand times yes! As a matter of fact I married him 29 years ago. The guy I love on my TV screen is Alex O’Loughlin and he is Steve McGarrett and he is Mick St. John. I have no hope of ever meeting the “real” man.

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        • FOYeur

          To your last comment…..I did not say because I am a fan of Alex that he is the perfect man and “my man”.
          What I say is that as an artist and as model he is good enough for me…..I really do prefer his own body with his face…….
          I know I will never meet Alex in person and although it would be nice, it would not make my world at…….I am quite happy where I am…..I am just a fan.

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        • FOY, I’m with You!

          There seems to be a lot of suppressed anger involved here, and reading between the lines, where it isn’t necessary.

          I support Your request to give “credit” to any creator of fanart by naming creations as what they are: CREATIONS, VISIONS, ART. They are not reality!

          Please Ladies, and Angel with a name as beautiful as that do comedown please. You want Your art to be recognized as your creations do You? That is what FOY wants too. You both want THE SAME!

          We love an artist who gives us so many goooood feelings and vibrations. Let us share those and not the ones out there killing us off! Cancer spreads through negativity and love can stop him. Believe me I KNOW!!!

          I ka ‘olelo no ke ola, i ka ‘olelo no ka make.

          Translation: In speech is life, in speech is death.

          Let us not kill each other! Please!

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        • FOYeur

          Linda with all the answers I actually forgot to answer this point you made…
          I am not trying to defend Alex. He does not need defending from me. He is man enough to be his own man. And something in the fandom is not his battle…..and this is not a battle, it is an awareness campaign against fakes being made and posted as the real Alex O’Loughlin!
          I am defending the people who just like Alex for who he is. The wonderful artist and human being that he is . We enjoy him and his art and we celebrate who he is as a whole. I do not celebrate somebody that think his body is inferior and with creation upon creation keeps chopping is head of to be on somebody elses body…….that is the message she keeps sending – “Alex I like your head but damn your body really needs work darling…..!”
          You as her friend maybe know some different side to her…..I don’t, I have only seen the side that she offered for the world to see, by what she creates. ( I will not take into account what she said about other fans and their creation on here or on facebook, because I realise that it is her instinct to lash out and I understand it…..people will defend what is theirs at all cost)
          This is a place and the home that Paula and I created to celebrate Alex as a man and as an actor because we believe he has more talent in his pinky than most other actors posses overall.
          We like to present the ART that Alex creates to the world and want to help people discover him as a whole……because we think he is worth it!!

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    • LindaSue

      I in no way want to “slam”, disrespect, or disagree with anyone on this but I would like to share my opinion and comment on this particular commentary. I appreciate you wanting to defend your friend. I am a reasonably “new” fan – since February of last year. I have looked at thousands and thousands of images of Alex on many websites, Twitter, Pinterest, Facebook, etc. Not one time have I seen any of these manipulated photos be identifed as such. Every place I have seen them, they have implied that it is Alex. Just wanted to give you some perspective from a “new” fan.

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  25. canadagirl66

    I agree that there are varying degrees of fandom and that I shouldn’t have used the word “true”…what I should have said…and this is just MY opinion…that if you love and admire and respect someone then you should show your love and admiration and respect in how you portray that person…if you don’t …you are not a fan…period!
    I understand that her pics were originally clearly marked as manips but I think she was naive to think that they wouldn’t be circulated forever in cyberspace and viewed as authentic.
    And although a lot of us loathe the pics we can not stop them from being created…by Angel or anyone else. We can however continue our campaigne to get the word out that they are fakes!

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  26. angel

    You’re so poor minded and have no clue. I’ve indeed two manpis which were signed by the actors themselves. And you know what? They loved it. They asked me about the process and how long it took. They didn’t feel offended in any way. So how come you dare to speak in the name of an actor you don’t even know? Honestly, how many of you have been drooling over a manip not knowing it’s one? I don’t have anything against criticism as long as it is constructive. All you do is bashing. And yes, it’s FOYer’s blog, but the pics are mine and putting them here on display with a holier than thou eology, without my permission and in a miserable quality makes her no better than those who steel the arts, and post it somewhere else. Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder. Thank you – Emerald – for pointing out that the definition of fan lies also in everyone’s resp. hands. I don’t like the pics where Alex’ head is put into a frame and sourrounded by thousands of flowers with tons of bling bling. That’s giving me the creeps. I’m always looking around for the obituary, then. If you don’t like manips,skip them. And that’s it for me. I’m out. Have a nice life!

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    • FOYeur

      Angel, please do not call anybody poor minded on here….everybody is entitled to their opinion and I would prefer that you also do that.
      Nobody said they know what Alex would think…..all I said is put yourself in his shoes……and how will you feel? Not – I know what he would feel!
      Those actors might have been to well mannered to tell you what they really think of what you did to them…….think about that??

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  27. angel

    Someone who think my work is miserably and is more than busy during a convention. takes about 30 minutes of his precious life to talk about somehing he doesn’t like? You’ve been there? You’ve seen it? What’s so bad about being an actor and liking manips? I can assure you that they don’t sign stuff they don’t like or they feel offended with. Is your whole little world shattering? You and your friends have a certain attitude of bashing and judging others. You know an answer to anything. Putting 314 gifs of an actor on a page is okay? It’s not bordering on being possessed with the man? About having no real life? Think about that …. Again, have a nice life!

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    • FOYeur

      Angel I will not even dignify this comment of yours by saying anything more than this…….
      Maybe by this outburst you are showing your true colours to the world?
      I said how I feel and further I asked questions and only gave one real answer myself…..Alex as a model and a man is GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.

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    • canadagirl66

      How DARE you insult this blog and the ladies who put so much time and love into it!!!!!
      It just shows your true colors and that you do not know how to show respect for anyone!!!!

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    • FOYeur

      And Angel just one last thing …….yes I do not have a life at the moment!! That is because the universe delt me that hand a year ago and unfortunately I have to live with it………
      I created a life for myself online and I have met some of the most wonderful woman around the world, because we share a love for an actor. They all know how much they mean to me. They are my OHANA!!
      If I want to be creative by putting Alex on display, does that make me possesed? If so then everybody in this fandom is possesed and most of them are proud of it……..

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      • canadagirl66

        SO.PROUD…to count you as one of my friends FOYeur and to be part of this fandom of smart, funny, creative and respectful woman!!

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    • Emerald

      Okay time out!

      Can we please keep this discussion respectful. Trust me, I’ve had enough of watching fans sniping at one another, from the last five years I’ve spent in the Moonlight fandom, to last me a lifetime…mmkay? 😉

      Angel, I absolutely support your right to express your creativity in whatever way you wish, even if it’s not my particular cup of tea, well there is this magical thing called a scroll bar – don’t like, keep on scrolling past it. I do also; however, understand Foyeur’s point of view that it’s not good for fans to be mislead, and considering some unscrupulous person or persons have taken your work and reposted it without the disclaimers you, rightly, put on it, that is what has happened.

      I think what might be happening here is a clash of cultures – fans vs fandom. Obviously fans are the ones who make up fandom, but there’s a very different culture between just being a general fan of something, or someone, and being involved in a fandom.

      Was Angel ‘naive’ to think her work wouldn’t be stolen and reposted elsewhere if she chose to share it online? Maybe. But when you’re coming at this from a fandom point of view, there are certain, unwritten, rules that things like plagiarism, stealing someone else’s artwork, even clip stealing from fanvids is just about the biggest fandom etiquette faux pas someone can commit. Fandoms can be very close knit, it can become almost a surrogate family in a way, and anyone who steps out of the bounds of what is acceptable behaviour (eg stealing someone’s photo manipulation and reposting it trying to claim it’s the real deal) tends to be shunned as a thief and a liar who is not to be trusted. A lot of people involved in fandom don’t want to be on the receiving end of that, they understand that theft or plagiarism of anyone’s work is wrong, ergo sum they don’t do it. Personally I don’t ever share or repost anyone else’s work without asking permission, and crediting the artist. That’s not just respect from one fan to another, it’s the respect of being part of a shared fandom experience.

      The thing is, some fandoms have only very recently begun to show a presence on social media sites such as Facebook. Prior to, I’d estimate the last couple of years or so, most fandom activity was confined to places like LiveJournal, Dreamwidth, Message Boards and Forums, and personal, fan created websites. Facebook is a new platform for us, it means we’re more likely to come into contact with fans who aren’t involved in fandom, and don’t understand all the nuances of it’s culture, so therefore, for some of us, it’s still a bit of a learning curve.

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    • Angel, having just read all the comments above, the only person I see bashing anyone is you. Looks like your feelings did get hurt over here, sorry about that. Most of us don´t like the manips posted above, maybe because they feel like they were made to fool Alex fans. We never thought most of these were done by one individual, this post wasn´t meant to be an attack against YOU personally. Sorry you now feel the need to bash what I have done and posted on our blog or our FB wp album, just because you are pissed off (btw I know animated gifs and my wallpapers are not liked by everyone and that is totally ok). I had a look at your FB album earlier today and you do have some really nice graphics up there. I wish you wouldn´t chop off Alex´s head and paste it onto someone else´s body anymore, but you do as you wish. Now you know there are fans fooled and disappointed by these.

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  28. I’d just like to add a few cents into the coin bowl here – I agree and disagree on a few points up both in the blog itself and the comments that have stemmed from it.

    I wholeheartedly agree that photo-manips, mashups, altered images, photoshopped picures etc etc and so forth should be ‘titled’ or ‘tagged’ as such. Personally I have no probelm seeing such images, I’m a fanfic writer myself, that is my creative expression within my ‘fandoms’. When it comes to ‘graphics’ I’m like a kid drawing a stick man, but I have the uptmost respect for people with a knack for weilding the many tools of photshop and the likes.

    There are many fans out there who don’t ‘get’ fanfic or who don’t like it and find it a pointless pursuit or can’t fathom why it’s written or exists. Fact is it does, it’s a huge part of fandom and it won’t ever go away.

    Neither will the part of fandom that creates graphic manipulations – and that includes RPP – Real Person Photos. Again, like fanfic, where we have RPF, sometimes an artists will use pictures of the actors and manipulate them onto another image or create a new image out of the old one. Now I can understand, when people are as passionate about a person they admire, that they can be upset when their image is used like this. But fact is it’s a common part of ‘fandom’ and Alex O is not the first, nor the last celebrity whose image is used this way within the ‘fandoms’ they are connected with.

    Like I said, i agree that it should be TACTFULLY pointed out that an image is a fake or photshopped one, especially if it’s to helpfully point out to a person that thinks it’s real. I would advise to be careful when you do this not to bash, flame or be disrespectful to the creator, whether you agree or not with their chosen creative expression. Remember over the internet, within blogs and within comments, things can be taken very lieterally and very out of context. You may not mean to ‘sound’ or come accross as bashing, flaming or disrespecting, but things can be very easily read out of context and quickly spiral out of control.

    It’s already been pointed out the reasons why a graphics artist creates these kinds of works – perhaps it’s been requested or simply something they wanted to experiment with. It’s perfectully within their right to do so. Again, it’s prefectly within another persons right to not like or agree with the way the person has used the image. But please don’t assume they disrespect, dislike or are ‘not a true fan’ simply because they don’t think the same way you do about the situation. I accept there are fans who don’t like fanfic, I respect that, doesn’t make me any more or less of a fan just because I think differently. I know the point of the blog was simply to point out that manipulations are being touted as true images – but in the comments it’s become a rather heated area, especially regarding how much a fan a person is or isn’t simply because of how they express their ‘love’ of person or show.

    I think the comments reflect how passionate people are about Alex, about fandom, about their support of other people and of their own work. I think it’s particularly sad things have become heated. I’m sure it can be understood why Angel has felt attacked because a lot of the manips are theirs and they’ve been used about a subject that yes has merit. When something of yours is critcised, even if it isn’t intentionally meant or directly pointed towards you, it’s easy to become quickly defensive and say things we may not mean simply to defend ourselves. We’ve all done it, let’s not kid ourselves. Personally, having spent a long time in various fandoms, with various degrees of fan opinions and fan ‘wars’, I’ve learnt to hold my tongue and let things slide by, but believe me, seeing your work criticised is very hard, no matter if it’s slight or harsh criticism.

    Didn’t mean to make this so long, but some of the comments had me sort of pulled in both directions – I’m sure nobody has meant to purposefully bash or flame one another and everyone has a right to an opinion, nobody is beyond throwing stones because they feel attacked, that goes for both sides of the argument.

    All in all – yes I agree, either have the images taken down OR have them tagged. But please, for the sake of fandom, fellow fans and the respect of individuals, do so in a nice manner.

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  29. This has been so enjoyable very intense and in some cases hard to read . I respect all of you for showing your love of Alex in different ways. I know many of you way back from the MOONLIGHT days.I agree with Foyeur and Paula in what they say but would not want to hurt anybody who loves Alex so I will let John Lennon and Paul McCartney two of my favorite countrymen speak for me in their marvellous song titles.
    LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED
    and
    LET IT BE
    Love to you all
    Pommienana
    XOOX

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  31. tracey maloney

    sorry but if alex was a real man he would not have had a kid to a married witch or even say that love is blind love is not blind 2 hearts became 1 and when he is with her he does not smile as much or even seem happy she cant even smile when its with him

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    • Dear Tracey
      I really do not know why you waste your time reading and commenting on a blog of a man who you think is not a real man. If I think somebody is not worth my time, I do not spend time on them – I kind of feel people who do that, are a bit foolish.
      Alex is a big boy and his private life is his own and his own to live!!
      On here we appreciate his beauty and his talent. If you wish to do the same with us, you are welcome……….

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      • Foyeur Darling
        Thank you so much for your restrained and intelligent response to Miss Baloney {Whoops} Ms Maloney. Having met and talked to Alex and Malia and Knowing how lovely they are I would like to give her a really good piece of my mind!! I should probably say a really BAD piece of my mind but out of love and respect for you and this blog I will NOT. { BITING TONGUE}

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